Edit: Tumbleweed and bazzite are currently the most attractive options based on what I’ve learned from the comments. I will trial run those and 1 or 2 others.

I am currently on Pop OS.

I am dissatisfied with the DE/UI and I’ve been playing with others but half the point of this distro is it’s custom UI. So I figured I would try another. I have several criteria that may narrow it down.

  1. I am going to use KDE or KDE Plasma (preferred). This is the only non-negotiable criteria.

  2. I will be gaming. This means I would like relatively up to date kernel and software. Rolling or semi-rolling releases are preferred.

2.5. I also work from this pc. This mainly entails using discord and Firefox though so no special requirements. I do have 4 different sized monitors with 3 different refresh rates that I use for work. Only one for gaming. One is vertical. I can tell I’m pushing x to its limits with that setup.

  1. I would prefer Debian-based as that is what I’m used to and because .deb packages are so common.

  2. I don’t want it to be a ton of effort to set up. Pop OS worked out of the box with my Nvidia GPU and all other hardware. I am willing to put in some effort though.

  3. I have been using and very much like apt and flatpak. This is not a requirement, just an observation.

  4. Wayland is neat

  5. Active community with lots of support to search through. Pop OS has been good for this as it’s Ubuntu based and has its own great community.

Ultimately I want an easy to use desktop OS that uses some sort of KDE, supports up to date packages and drivers, supports most games and isn’t a pain to maintain.

Here are some contenders that fit at least some of my requirements.

KDE Neon user edition

Opensuse tumbleweed

Kubuntu

Endeavor OS

Debian

Manjaro

Bazzite

Mint Debian edition

Right now I’m leaning toward KDE Neon, Kubuntu, or Debian (whatever the rolling release version is), but the others all have their draws. I’ve heard the aur is great but I have come across several applications only available in website downloads of Deb packages so I’m hesitant.

I have been using pop as my first desktop distro after Windows and I’ve enjoyed it a lot. I barely run into anything I can’t solve with some effort and headache and not a single game I can’t play. I’d like to keep it that way.

Now that that’s out of the way, does anyone have suggestions? Am I looking in the wrong direction? Am I asking the wrong questions? Should I just install arch, live in the terminal, and throw away my mouse? /s

Thank you all for your advice in advance.

  • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org
    1·
    1 hour ago

    I’d say opensuse is a solid choice but I’d also give fedora KDE spin a look too. There’s also bazzite that’s based off fedora and made with gaming in mind.

  • Axum
    10·
    5 hours ago

    Bazzite, since you’re gaming.

    It’s truly the dark horse that is phenomenal that doesn’t get enough attention if you’re focused on gaming

    The included distrobox software can effectively let you run any other distro in a nice container and install things as well.

    • Alk@sh.itjust.worksOP
      2·
      5 hours ago

      Thank you. I’m definitely doing to trial bazzite and tumbleweed. Both have received near unanimous praise from anyone who mentioned them in my 2 posts, Tumbleweed moreso.

  • jrgd@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    6 hours ago

    My top picks currently for distros that support KDE are the following:

    For your use case (Nvidia, Wayland preferential), the better choices among these will likely be the rolling releases (OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, ArchLinux) or 6 month point releases (Fedora KDE). Debian and OpenSUSE Leap are solid choices for LTS, but given the state of Nvidia and Wayland, it’s best to use the latest releases of KDE and the proprietary Nvidia drivers. If you switch GPUs to AMD or Intel in the future, you should have no issues using any of the distros listed.

    To put points against some of the distros your contending list:

    Many of the direct Ubuntu-based distros tend to have a certain level of lesser quality in packages (such as many releases never end up pushing bugfix patches that get patched in many other distros including Debian). Additionally, there is no guarantee that Ubuntu-derivative distros that don’t directly source from Ubuntu software repos may have breakages when using PPA repos or developer-distributed .deb packages.

    I’m sure you’re aware of this bit as well, but the mainline Canonical-maintained distros (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, etc.) rely heavily on Snap: a containerized application platform similar to flatpak, but with no freedom of choice of package sourcing. Every Snap package will be pulled from Canonical’s proprietary publishing platform. A lot of derivative distros (Linux Mint, Pop! OS, etc.) end up stripping out Snap from default installations and removing package redirects, recommends for Snap.

    For Arch derivatives (Endeavour, Manjaro, etc.), don’t expect to be able to use AUR packages without issues unless your derivative directly sources from the ArchLinux repos. Many AUR packages explicitly expect the latest packages, which some derivatives defer updates to, causing breakages.

    In particular, Manjaro has a track record of poor maintenance and questionable choices (recommending users to roll back system clocks after forgetting to renew TLS certs, shipping outright broken versions of Asahi Linux in order to tout support for Apple hardware, DDOS’ing the AUR, etc.)

    Debian Sid (the unstable (rolling) variant Debian) is an option, but it’s really not recommended for end-use, and mostly only for testing.

    To put points against some of the distros on my recommendation list:

    Fedora explicitly only ships with FOSS software. This does mean that initial NVidia driver setup is more involved compared to most distros. The process shortlist is initial boot with nomodeset, install rpmfusion repos, and then install the NVidia drivers from RPMFusion-nonfree. Once that is done, the proprietary drivers should be installed and all configurations necessary should already be made. Simply rebooting should allow using the system accordingly.

    Installing ArchLinux specifically expects some knowledge of the inner workings of a Linux system. Modern Arch live images do come with Archinstall: a utility that assists in getting an installation from configuration options. In general, an Arch install is a more involved process. ArchLinux also expects that you read from the news page before pushing updates to your system. While this kind of practice can also be true for many other rolling systems/point releases between feature upgrades, it is fairly imperative that due diligence and backups are taken on Arch systems when updating.

    • Alk@sh.itjust.worksOP
      1·
      5 hours ago

      Thank you so much, that was very informative. Tumbleweed is looking more attractive the more I think about it. Or bazzite. I’m going to trial run both of those plus Endeavor OS.

      At the very least I want any Ubuntu derivitive to be as good as pop OS, which means no snap and mildly acceptable package maintenance, so that rules out a few options. Pop OS does seem to be one of the best Ubuntu based distros for Nvidia support, and already checks a lot of my boxes so I may even make the decision to stay on this until I can build a red team PC for much easier hardware support (which I already planned on doing eventually).

  • moreeni@lemm.ee
    2·
    6 hours ago

    I highly recommend checking out either Fedora KDE Spin or Fedora Kinoite! Both are great choices, especially if you want to leverage the power of Flatpak for app installation, as they both push the user towards it. Additionally, if you ever need to install .deb packages, you can easily do so using Ubuntu in toolbox.

    Alternatively, EndeavourOS might also be a good fit for you, providing a user-friendly Arch installation with a rolling release system. You’ll have a modern and flexible environment while still being able to use Flatpak effortlessly. You can also install distrobox there to, again, use apt inside of an Ubuntu system.

    Whichever you choose, you can’t go wrong! Happy tinkering and remember that the best way to choose a distro is to try it out.

    • Alk@sh.itjust.worksOP
      2·
      6 hours ago

      Thanks! And yeah I’ll definitely try several. I have 2 or 3 that I’m definitely going to test drive for a week thanks to all of the helpful comments I’m getting.

      • Drathro@dormi.zoneEnglish
        1·
        5 hours ago

        If you’re gaming you might as well just jump on Bazzite if you’re already interested in Kinoite. Very similar base, but Bazzite has some extras Kinoite doesn’t and it makes a transition into an immutable distro easier.

  • JustMarkov@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2·
    6 hours ago

    We can’t choose for you, unfortunately, only give you advice. My advice question is: Kubuntu and Debian (KDE Neon too, iirc) are an LTS distros, why would you chose them given your criteria?

    For myself, I can recommend Bazzite or Aurora, if you are okay with using an immudable distro. They are both Fedora Atomic based, but Bazzite is gaming first, while Aurora is a general purpose distro.

    openSUSE Tumbleweed is also amazing. It is rolling and generally one of the best KDE experiences you can get. It also has a snapper tool, which lets you to rollback to the state before the update or even further.