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    See also: Schrödinger’s neurodivergence.

    “What’s wrong with you? Why are you like this?”

    “There’s nothing wrong with you, you need to stop making excuses.”

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    “sounds of mom crying somewhere”

    Uuh…yeah that’s not part of growing up with ADHD, at least not universally in any way…and what’s with the bruised legs?

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      and what’s with the bruised legs?

      Tldr: inattentiveness, bumping into tons of stuff, and only remembering it when you look at the bruise or someone reminds you.

      An explanation that’s meant to be humorous because it happens to me and my wife all the time:

      “Oh my god, where did THIS bruise come from?”

      earlier that day

      bump “ow, how did I hit the coffee table…”

      bump “fuck that hurt, I swear the counter was another 6 inches over”

      smash “FUCK the freezer door closes too quickly!”

      has to be reminded of these events to remember tham

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        High pain tolerance with this is borderline dangerous

        I once went on a tech support visit to someone’s bosses office, finished what I was doing, left, and the guy escorting me told me my hand was bleeding the entire time.

        I am absolutely that oblivious, i didn’t even know what I nicked myself on, didn’t even feel it

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          …ooof. I have a high pain tolerance as well… Totally get this. A lot of things breeze off, then I wonder why I’m suddenly bruised, or my toe is broken.

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          I’ve had cuts I didn’t know about, but the worst was when I worked retail and managed to smash my upper arm on a shelf, and apparently I was bleeding bad enough to leave a broken trail from the front of the store to the break room.

          I couldn’t feel anything but the aching of the blunt force trauma, I didn’t feel the sharp cut or any stinging at all.

          I’ve also had plenty of small spots I have no idea how they happened, but usually I’M the one to figure it out…

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        This is where im blessed, my body very very rarely bruises so most people have no idea how clumsy I am on a daily basis.

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      Lot of disinformation in the answers you got so I’m here to clear it up.

      >Alterations to proprioception is a sensory characteristic that is inherent to ADHD symptomology.

      >Proprioception is guided by receptors in the body that connect with the brain through the nervous system so that even without sight, a person knows what his or her body is doing.

      Basically, for many people with ADHD, we aren’t so good at sensing where our bodies are in relation to the world around us. So it’s not abnormal to, say, run into doors when walking through them.

      I’m pretty much perpetually covered in bruises.

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        wait fuck is THAT what it is? i’ve always been sorta on the fence about whether i’m adhd, but this symptom is one i have times one million.

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          It can also occur in folks with other neurodivergence but yes, there’s a legit reason why bruises are meme-worthy (and why I get my undies in a twist when people act like it’s not a legit symptom).

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            I’ve always been clumsy. It was bad enough that a couple of years ago I asked my doctor if I needed a neurology consult. Nobody at any point has said ADHD to me. (Or autism, I’ve probably also got that going on.) God healthcare sucks

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              I take stimulant medication for my crippling ADHD and while it’s in my system, I am suddenly aware of where I am, in relation to other things. I don’t run into things, I don’t trip on nothing.

              When I’m at baseline, I have been known to tip over while standing.

              This isn’t an ad for medication. There are massive drawbacks to it. It’s just a reiteration that this isn’t our fault. It’s not that we’re “clumsy.” It’s not that we’re stupid. In this case it isn’t even that we’re unobservant! It’s that neurologically typical people often “feel” where they are in relation to everything around them without trying.

              We are fundamentally missing a sense of spacial relation, completely without a frame of reference to everything around us. That isn’t a flaw that we possess because of something we are doing “wrong,” or because we don’t try. And when I realized that, especially since I’m a woman (and grew up verbally brutalized over my unbecoming bruises), it made me angry.

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        Yeah. ADHD mom here. Had a good cry tonight about my kid and all his challenges.

        I try to keep on the happy face when he’s around but parenting a kid with severe ADHD is really hard sometimes.

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          I get that. We’re meant to stay positive because they can’t help it and they need us, but it’s hard to see things in a positive light sometimes. Write me sometime if you need a sympathetic ear.

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        I do have one, but I haven’t had any experiences that would make me sit down and cry or anything traumatic. He’s a handful (and then some) at times, but definitely more good times than bad ones.

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          As a former ADHD kid myself (as in, former kid, still ADHD), I would at least worry about how the condition might affect their academic, social, and emotional development. I was an unfortunate Gifted Kid and picked up a lot of knowledge from cartoons (back when cartoons had educational value), but that came with the cost that I never learned discipline, and never learned how to study. I know that my consistently falling test scores confused and devastated my parents.

          But all that was two decades ago. I hope that ADHD is more understood now and kids don’t have to remain undiagnosed and untreated.

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    All my teachers loved me

    “I know you’re smart but” was a constant refrain of my school days, usually followed by “but you need to apply yourself”

    I was never very funny, funny enough.

    [leg shakes table and everyone asks what’s doing that]

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      I once sat in on a parent/teacher meeting with my brother. The teacher lamented that my brother could be doing so much better if he just applied himself.

      He had a 96 in the course. You know how much better he could do if he applied himself? 4%. Doesn’t seem like it would be worth the effort, y’know?

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        I constantly went head to head with my school’s Spanish teacher because I was bored and she was a bitch. Eventually the principal had a meeting with my mom and said, “look, I know your son is smarter than her, but could you ask him to chill a bit?”

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      In AP Computer Science my teacher gave me a school award for how good I was and had me lead lessons and was constantly called brilliant, and I got a 5 on the AP test without an issue. I also got a C in the class.

      I’m now 31 and have dropped out of college because, despite never struggling in a class, I stopped doing any of the work when I thought caffeine was causing me issues because I was addicted (which I totally was) and quit it. I just realized I’m textbook ADHD and no one bothered to tell me before. The caffeine was what kept me sane.

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    Yes, weird with the teacher relationships. A kid from my class, strong on the hyperactive side, was really hated by some teachers. One threatened to beat him up in front of the whole class, another (of the super nice relaxed ones) just threw him out with a book to study on his own in the hallway. I suspect that he never did a single line of homework or studying at home, but his test grades were too good to let him fail.

    I don’t have hyperactivity. The best teacher I had really hated me, because he was all about punctuality, reliability, discipline - totally not my approach to math. His teaching was great, I didn’t forget a single lecture to this day, and it allowed me to get all the math course certificates for a STEM field later, although I never finished the degree. A few STEM teaches though realised that my obsession with electronics and programming was really getting somewhere and tried to motivate me to put in the time in related fields, but I never put any work in, and only for computer science was that enough to still ace it.

    My own son is even stronger in the extremes. He is barely old enough for his grade, but already has to take math in the grade above. Can’t skip, because his reading & writing is just on par (although in two languages). But he is extremely disruptive. His teachers seem like they understand that he puts in the same mental effort to focus and sit still, just with worse results than the average. And they support my suspicion that he has ADHD and should get tested. Well, will probably take 4 - 6 months to get an appointment, and another 4 - 6 months until there is a diagnosis.

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    Is the bruised legs from punching yourself in frustration? That’s why I would have bruises like that. That might not be the ADHD, though. It could be the autism or the borderline personality disorder. And it’s actually a coping mechanism to hit myself instead of breaking things.

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      Nah, that’s accidently whacking yourself on things. Doorknobs are my nemesis (hips/waist), as are countertop corners (knees) and cabinet doors (back of head)

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      “This kid is smart. Let’s put him in the top class.”

      [gets put in the top class]

      “This kid’s grades are mediocre. Let’s put him in the mediocre class.”

      [grades remain mediocre, because it was never ‘challenge’ that was the issue, it was ‘remembering to turn in homework’]