• TommySoda@lemmy.world
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    Five Finger Death Punch is as close as you can possibly get to pop music without leaving the genre of metal completely. I don’t judge people if it’s their jam, I just think they are extremely mediocre at best. It’s no coincidence that the majority of their most popular songs are covers.

    But hey, people like what they like.

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      I just feel like their songs are specifically targeted to edgy 13 year olds. “wrong side of heaven and righteous side of hell” I mean, c’mon.

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        I don’t get this point of view, maybe I should because it sounds logical. But again sometimes I want to listen to harpsichords in E by Bach. And sometimes I want to listen to hallowed be thy name from iron maiden, sometimes I want to listen to a nightmare to remember by dream theater, and sometimes I want to listen to wrong side of heaven by ffdp.

        It’s like the same logic that I love eatimg healthy home made delicious filipino food every day of the week, by my excellent cook of a wife. And yet occasionally I get a craving for a menu at burger King with a monster energy drink.

        It is as if there is redeemable factors in both

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          Tbf, the metal bands you mentioned are all on the operatic side of metal, which is a nice subgenre. Many metal fans would say that there are definitive bands which categorize one subgen vs another. I’ve never heard of Five Finger Death Punch, and thought the name was actually Five Flavored Fruit Punch. Maybe an opportunity for Weird Al here 😁

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      I tend to like pop metal the same way I like pop punk. It’s not going to make me feel anything but it’s catchy. It’s good for working out or working on the motorcycle and similar things where I want a driving background but don’t want to get way into it.

      That being said, the kind of people who listen to FFDP put me off of their music. It’s like that’s the first metal they ever heard then decided to make it their whole personality.

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      I agree they are mediocre (at best), but as for sounding poppy, you’re forgetting we have a whole metal subgenre called hair metal.

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        Yeah but hair metal had raw sex appeal. They’d fuck your girl, and maybe you too, and you were ok with it. Sure it’s musically lighter, but they went hard. On the other hand, you assume 5FDP is on tour again because they’re behind on child support payments.

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      Ghost is in the same boat. Don’t get me wrong, they write some great songs, but they are perilously close to pop

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          “Bon Jovi for Goth Dads” is the other one I enjoy. I love Ghost, Tobias writes exactly the music he wants. Not trying to be metal, he was heavily influenced by og heavy metal (Sabbath) and the theatrics of the glam/hair metal era (Kiss). Combine the two and ya, that’s just Ghost.

          It’s very intentionally campy and fun, like year round Halloween.

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        To their defense, I think they are really self aware. The campiness and the theatrics are all intentional. It almost has a musical (the broadway kind) aspect to it. 5FDP actually believe they are hard.

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    Honestly don’t understand the hate ffdp gets.

    If someone could clue me in that’d be nice cause like I genuinely like a lot of their original songs as well as the remakes.

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      I have no clue about music in general, but ffdp are pretty basic when it comes to their song structure, a lot of simple and repetitive rhythms. Add to that that they sound recorded better than live (IMO) and they’re American which can lead to prejudices in the metal community and the bands easy to joke about.

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      Their music was pretty great back in the day, but their more recent stuff sounds like schizophrenic whinging, and their music videos make them look like maga fascists. I have done zero research on what their opinions actually are.

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      I like their first couple albums and they write extremely catchy songs, but their lyrics feel just a little too douchey for my taste. They’re a fantastic cover band though.

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      They sound too much like divorced dad rock for my liking. But I listen to system of a down and disturbed…so who am I to complain

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      i think the reson behind that has little to do with the music. idk how it is now but a few years ago the band had baddd infighting and made it all public. i am talking up to the level of dissolving the band on stage, just to continue for the revenue the next day. I assume many of the ffdp haters were fans of the music back then, but got dissapointed by the musicans to the point they couldnt enjoy it anymore.

      Remember if someone hates a thing, its likely they still care about it.

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      Idk what genres you like so here’s a few recommendations across a few genres. On phone so no links.

      I’ve been obsessing over Hiræth lately, probably one of the best albums I have ever heard. It’s not a metal album, but it scratches that itch I have for metal, so it’s going on this list lol

      • Witching - Vernal (blackened sludge)
      • Flummox - Rephlummoxed (prog death/avant garde)
      • Mamaleek - Vida Blue (avant garde)
      • Rail Yard Ghosts - Hiræth (Blackgrass/Blackened folk punk, large band)
      • Woe - Hope Attrition (black metal/RABM)
      • Botanist - Paleobotany (Experimental Black metal)
      • An Abstract Illusion - Woe (prog death)
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      Slaughter to prevail

      Archspire

      Igorrr

      Blood incantation

      All are in my heavy rotation right now, I like weird envelope pushing metal.

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      Specific tracks, for your convenience:
      Blackbraid - The river of time flows through me
      Klevertak - Blodtørst
      Kanonenfieber - Sturmtrupp

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      Metal bands can scream and growl as much as they want, they will never hit as hard as the last minute of “I love you, I’m going to blow up your school” by MOGWAI, or pretty much anything by SWANS.

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    I find this funny because I only like technical death metal, like the pizza passage, sporeception, and sly cropped dick

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      There’s nothing more subversive than the Thin Blue Line sticker on their lifted Dodge RAM