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    Just guessing here, but I’d assume it’s because the unborn have potential and the bad guys had their chance. I don’t agree, but that’s what I assume being around some people like that…

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    As someone recently told me, they don’t worry about saving lives, they worry about saving souls.

    You need to abide by the quaint rules of the magical sky daddy for that, even if they don’t make sense.

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      But the Skyfather himself has given us directions to induce a miscarriage with a tabernacle dust smoothie.

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    Arguably, an unborn baby cannot be guilty of anything. But an adult sentenced to death is often guilty of some horrible crime. So if you accept killing as a punishment, there is no contradiction.

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      Until you realize that our court system is FULL of false arrests, and the courts have some stupid high number like 98% conviction rate.

      They say “take the deal, or the court will fuck you”.

      2 years vs 30 years.

      And then later they run a second trial for something else that has a death penalty as the outcome. The jury is shown this guy, already in prison, for a semi-related charge. Already convicted of the other charge. So his ability to appear innocent is already swayed. And now suddenly there’s no deal. The court goes full hammer. The jury is made to believe he did it 100%.

      And he can’t say he didn’t do it, and wasn’t even there, because he ALREADY pleaded guilty to the other charge which would place him there.

      So now you got a populace, who wasn’t in either court session, not seeing how this escalated, and not willing to believe our court system may be flawed. Just kill the criminal and move on, right?

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        You are overstating it. all evidence I can find is only a small percentage are not guilty. Of course that small possibility is enough for me to be against the death pentalty. If we had a way to be 100% sure of guilt I’d favor death but since we don’t I can’t go that far.

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    I think they just see it as very simple: killing innocent babies - no, killing evil criminals - yes. It sounds perfectly alright if you don’t think about it too much.

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      An unwanted unplanned baby is punishment for having sex outside of marriage.

      Death penalty is punishment for being convicted of murder.

      It’s perfectly consistent when you look at it all about punishment.

      The cruelty is indeed the point

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    Because it’s never been about anything other than control. The right to choose anything is abhorrent to them. The only rights they want you to have are the right to be dictated to and the right to be like them.

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    contradiction

    You’ve discovered conservative politics. Party of freedom that wants to restrict women’s access to healthcare, books in schools, reproductive rights, healthcare for children, etc.

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      Roman Catholic doctrine opposes both, but the bishops don’t go around threatening to withhold religious services for politicians who allow the death penalty like they do with pro-choice politicians…

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    In the end, it’s because they’re told that that’s the way it is.

    Abortion makes a an easy political point. Vote for the children.

    Being hard on crime and executing people, That’s another easy political point. Vote for the law abiding citizens.

    They don’t care that those two things are at odds They don’t care about life or death. They care about their own exact situation, and don’t really give a rat’s ass about anyone else. They believe that the team they’re backing gives them the best advantage, and that’s absolutely all they care about. Beyond that, it’s simply consuming and regurgitating the propaganda, self-perpetuating.

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    Kind of seems like a contradiction

    They don’t care. There’s no point in calling conservatives out on hypocrisy. Only a very small number of them will give a shit, and those will be the ones who were already having doubts.

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      Precisely this. From a philosophical-logical POV, it doesn’t make sense. From the POV of establishing and maintaining power/ dominance/ oppression/ hegemony, however, it’s the only thing that makes sense.