• Billiam@lemmy.world
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    Yes, but what about [single political issue here that Trump is as bad or worse on]?

    Clearly this means we should vote for [candidate least likely to win but most likely to split the vote of the non-fascist party]!

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        I vote now.

        I don’t think I was selfish before … Just ignorant and/or sheltered.

        I don’t think I disagree with your point, but the messaging is unlikely to convert many non voters.

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          tbf, if they’re on a politics com and bragging about not voting, chances are that they’re pretty far from where you were at if you were just ignorant and/or sheltered.

        • I’m just yelling at the choir on Lemmy, I believe. With my actual friends, especially married ones with daughters who say this stuff, I approach it differently. “You always tell me you disdain deadbeat dads, but not voting is another form of failing your daughter. You should be a champion for her rights man, not sitting on the sidelines trying to play nice with ‘both sides.’”

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            I can’t believe how apolitical I was before our daughter was born. I mean I’m not even in the US or a man but Jesus fucking Christ having kids makes you so invested into everything that you cannot not be political. It’s not even a real choice unless you are, as you phrase it, a deadbeat parent.

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      “You see, if fascism wins, then socialism will magically win next. It’s a law of nature, like a pendulum. It Is Known.”

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    It seems obvious, but half the country thinks Harris controls weather machines and hits Florida with hurricanes for some reason. They show up and vote, because they believe this nonsense deeply.

    Please acknowledge the threat and act accordingly. If you are in a swing state, please vote for the rest of us. Your vote matters so very much.

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      It’s not half. It’s a minority in this country. It SEEMS like half cause the electoral college is a moronic system.

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        It’s actually pretty close to half. According to Pew polls of people in the US, (not just voters or likely voters), about 40% identify as right of center. About 35% identify as left of center. The other 25% identify as moderates or independents.

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      there was an interview where a woman said something to the effect of “they’re controlling the weather and letting the hurricane hit red districts because they can’t rig the election otherwise”. like yeah hacking motherfucking weather is somehow easier than hacking ballots.

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        That was a Good Liars interview. They get spectacularly crazy quotes from people at Trump rallies, which I’m sure is not difficult.

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          That was also a member of the House of Representatives saying that, because we live in an insane world.

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      Because conspiratorial thinking has flourished, creating a whole set of fantasy worlds to believe in where anything can happen as long as it proves you were right all along when you were an asshole.

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    Another thing that gets no attention is that she is one of the few members of congress who didn’t invest in individual stocks but just does index funds to prevent conflicts of interest/insider trading. I really wish democrats would do a better job of contrasting Trump’s corruption with theirs but then again I guess they gotta pick something and run with it.

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        Doesn’t change the truth that Kamala is in power right now and she is currently using that power to make sure a genocidal leader keeps getting everything he needs to continue committing genocide.

        Stop pretending that the candidate you’re endorsing isn’t a monster

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          She is Vice-President and does not make foreign policy at the moment and has been quite specific about protecting both Palestinian and Israeli lives as her position on the issue.

          Her current role is advisory, the President decides actual policy and her’s as President would be exponentially better than Trump’s.

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            She has repeatedly said that she would not put conditions on arms to Israel and that her position is the exact same as Biden’s.

            I don’t care that her position is merely advisory, she’s in a position of power and she’s using that position to run defense for a genocidal regime.

            With power comes responsibility and I’m holding her responsible for what she does with her power

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          Stop pretending that the candidate you’re endorsing isn’t a monster

          “But she’s the monster I prefer! How dare you?”

          Humans are not so great, and I won’t miss them when they’re gone.

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        I understand that. It’s just that I’m tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. Can we please stop killing innocent people? Thank you.

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            Just as soon as you stop trying to make it look like both sides are the same.

            I want innocent people to not be killed. I am sorry that this offends you.
            I am also sorry that you are offended that I won’t be voting in this election.
            I am also sorry that you hate my ‘dumb fucking mouth’, which I will continue to use to state my moral expectation that innocent people are not killed, whether you like it or not.

            I suspect that, if you are to get the outcome you want, you will be perfectly fine with children dying in far off countries. “After all,” you will say, “I got what I wanted.” And you will continue to lecture people like me that we should “do your best to love the people around you,” even when you have shown you lack interest in people on a wider scale.

            P.S. me saying “lesser of two evils” indicates that I think they’re not the same, but they’re not different enough to impress me. Learn to read.

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            We did that, your fascists gave us a conservative healthcare plan and nothing else.

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        You mean you don’t understand the lovers, right? In the end it’s always a matter of “who’s the least worse”. Harris is, by far, but in the end certain things will never change. Will Harris be brave to turn her back on Israel? Never. A lot of empty words have been said on the matter but facts speak louder than words. US can’t afford to lose their proxy in the middle east. Israel will continue to be unpunished and funded for years to come. How much money did they send to Israel in the last year? Read about 18 billions, or something like that. But they built the pier in Gaza for humanitarian actions. LOL. It’s like throwing a dollar to a person you’re helping beating up.

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          No, I mean hater ppl who downvote undisputed ideas like that comment in order to ‘support’ the mama.

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            Oh, sorry. I don’t care about downvotes. I’m glad they read it but didn’t have anything to respond to it.

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    Sounds boring.

    Personally, I think the world needs major powers with a bit more crazy to 'em. You really wanna live in a world where you go to bed and wake up to the same thing? Selling nuclear secrets is the spice of life.

    Edit: Really? I honestly thought I was laying the sarcasm on a little thick. Whatever. lol

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    0 primaries won

    0 fucks given about commiting genocide

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      what is Trump’s position on the Gaza genocide? will he be better?

      I have 0 faith trump will be better

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        Trump’s position is that he wants to obliterate Gaza and commit genocide domestically, too.

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        They don’t care about what Trump will do, they just want a reason to bitch about the Democrats.

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          i agree. if the argument was “Harris is bad in Genocide support, and Trump is better”, then it is worth considering. but the reality is currently “Harris is bad in Genocide support, and Trump is a whole lot worse”.

          if you care about stopping the Gaza genocide, vote Harris. its infinitely better than the alternative

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        You can vote for her as a lesser evil, but the fact is she is arming genocide as a viceprez and hasn’t criticized any of Biden’s Israel politics.

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          she is arming genocide as a viceprez

          That is not within vice presidential powers. And what do you think would happen if you started criticizing your boss? Do you think it would have a positive outcome for you?

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      I’m sure the realistic alternative would be much better on this issue, especially considering what he did about the Central Park 5 as a private citizen