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A nine-minute, unedited, undercover interview with Roger Stone revealed some of the MAGA ally’s more disturbing goals for a second Trump administration.
The covert recording of a discussion between Stone and an undercover journalist at a meet and greet in Jacksonville, Florida, on August 4, published by documentarian Lauren Windsor, caught Stone admitting live on camera that he already intends to send “armed guards to dispute the election in Detroit” and to imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr if Trump returns to power.”
Under the guise of discussing a far-right program to get more like-minded people back into the federal government, Stone shared his disdain for Barr, deriding him as a “traitorous piece of human garbage.” He also lamented that, while president, “Donald Trump never controlled the Justice Department.”
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Plotting coups has been Roger Stone’s MO for decades. He was behind the Brooks Brothers Riot in 2000, and the J6 insurrection. He’s one of the key players and amongst the most dangerous fascists in the US, and it’s astounding he manages to stay out of our conversations – and largely away from repercussions – to the extent he does.
He’s been getting away with absolutely devastating ratfuckery since Nixon (whose face is literally tattooed on his back).
He desperately needs consequences. He’s needed consequences for decades.
successfully plotting coups
Ftfy. We should keep in mind that this guys approach to coups has actually worked in the past. The first attempt at a stolen election was 2000, and it worked.
Yes, and he’s been carefully learning from his failures ever since, honing his strategies in concert with other actually intelligent fascists like Bannon, Miller, etc, as well as foreign dictators like Erdoğan, Orbán, and Putin.
This threat is not being taken seriously enough, partly because they have a buffoonish carnival barker of a front-man who, by design, deflects attempts to take the threat seriously.
It’s very worrisome.
e: weird crosshatch
I’ll be damned
He should be in prison for the rest of his life and kissing the feet of everyone else that he wasn’t put in front of a firing squad.
Will be super glad when this fucker is worm shit.
Wow. Pretty serious accusation. Any word on when the DOJ will be indicting him?
Garland:
such an action would be unconscionably divisive this close to a presidential election
🤡
The DOJ will investigate and then do nothing to hold them accountable, as is tradition.
They have concepts of a plan for investigation.
I am certain they will make an announcement about an investigation that MIGHT lead to action… After the election.
Right after Matt Gaetz sees a jail cell.
This shitbird needs to go back to prison. The fact he’s out at all is a complete miscarriage of justice.
Cases like him are why we actually do need the death penalty (and why it’s the Constitutionally-prescribed punishment for treason). As we can see from Trump’s pardoning of him, any lesser punishment isn’t final enough.
Unhung traitors kill republics
That’s what I was thinking, but you said it better than I would have. Pretty disgusting that we have the death penalty and only use it for innocent, poor, or mentally ill people while Roger fucking Stone walks. 🤮
Or for any other crime, for that matter.
It’s insane how much crime we’re willing to tolerate as long as it’s committed by rich white people.
…rich white Republican people, that is.
Kinda sad how many businesses make more money in a month of payroll fraud alone than most “career criminals” can make in a lifetime of B&Es.
Biden could solve a lot of problems with just a couple executive actions right now.
I wish this asshat would be imprisoned already. Fucking traitorous filth.
*Another coup. This is, what, coup #3? Brooks brothers riot in 2000, J6, and now 2024.
What happened to punishing treasonous fuckers?
They never prosecuted the business plot. This is the long game version of it.
Or prosecuted Nixon. And let Oliver North take the fall for Iran Contra.
When I think of Roger Stone, I think of the ignominiousness of Roy Cohn, and the especially ironic (and very horrible) way he died.
Sadly, as much as I hate Roger Stone, I cannot wish that upon him. However, I do hope he does meet at least an equal amount of irony in his demise.
Edit: for the curious, check out Angels in America. Be prepared to cry.
He died of AIDS complications, which isn’t a nice way to go but it’s not notably worse than many of the other typical ways people die.
EDIT
A couple of people seem to be misreading what i wrote. I specifically said AIDS is a bad way to go, but so are zillions of other common ways such as Alzheimer’s.
Having witnessed so many friends and a boyfriend die from this disease over the past few decades, I must say— you know nothing of how horrific this disease is. To live through or to witness.
The only reason it is, now, a survivable disease is nothing short of medical miracles— but it is particularly offensive to downplay - or even to equivocate - on its horrors. Keep in mind that the vast majority of those with HIV/AIDS cannot afford effective treatment to mitigate the disease, and, thusly, will die horribly from it.
We should always check our privilege. Not everyone in this world will ever get modern medical care. It’s something we all must work towards.
I specifically said that it IS horrible, but so is dying from cancer, and so is dying from Alzheimer’s, etc.
AIDS is not a simple disease, but a constellation of effects and ills. It can provoke cancer (so can the meds), and it can also provoke early-onset Alzheimer’s.
It’s much worse than either.
I worked in the specialty AIDS ward in St. Stephen’s hospital in London (before any meds were available).
AIDS has a devil’s banquet of particular cruelties as the diseases it kills with are many, some are particularly horrific, and they overlap so that the comorbidity of all this horrible shit happening at once is itself an overriding cruelty.
Sometimes it goes on forever, and also I watched buff fit vibrant people burst out in painful cancerous lesions and waste away to a stick figure in a month.
AIDS is a concentration camp not a prison, unless you have the best meds and care.
I know, it’s horrible, but so is Alzheimer’s and a zillion others.
How did Roy Cohn die?
AIDS. For such a devout and pernicious homophobe, he turned out to be gay, himself. And, fucking around with other men - without condoms in the 80s - was a terribly reckless practice. Of course, Roy Cohen could never imagine it happening to him, yet it did. It was his final indignity, and one of the most amazing forms of irony in practice in recent history.
Ah, ok, thanks. Now that you mention it, that rings a bell. I understand better what you meant with your earlier post. Thanks.
o7
Sometimes I forget how many younger people are here on lemmy, and all you kids may not get the older references.
Sad to say, but the Republicans have been absolute fuckfaces since the Nixon administration.
I’d say before, read up on that trashbag Goldwater for example. And he was their voice of sanity!
And it’s extremely disturbing as to how far the Overton window has shifted to the right when compared to that crazy.
The last decent repub was Eisenhower.
From Wikipedia: “According to Roger Stone, Cohn’s “absolute goal was to die completely broke and owing millions to the IRS. He succeeded in that.”[64]” Cohn died (August 6, 1986) of complications related to AIDS, while in complete denial about that fact.
I don’t wish that upon him, but I will read his obituary with unbridled glee.
Sadly, as much as I hate Roger Stone, I cannot wish that upon him.
That’s too bad… Here, I’ll do it for you.
imprison “former Attorney General Bill Barr
So I guess it’s not all bad.
It’s the tip of the iceberg though. If they’re ready to imprison on of their own, imagine what they’ll do to anyone on the other side of the aisle.
These guys don’t believe in the rule of law at all. Only power.
The POS Stone should stand in front of mirror and say, “he has to go to prison.” That mofo is a sick lunatic neo-Nazi.
Watching that video, Stone is either in the midst of a mental health crisis or has had a generous helping of Bolivian marching powder. Either way, what a weirdo.
I see several comments wondering why Stone hasn’t been put in prison. He was, but Trump pardoned him (and a bunch of others)
From his Wikipedia page:
On January 25, 2019, Stone was arrested at his Fort Lauderdale, Florida, home in connection with Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel investigation and charged in an indictment with witness tampering, obstructing an official proceeding, and five counts of making false statements. In November 2019, a jury convicted him on all seven felony counts. He was sentenced to 40 months in prison. On July 10, 2020, days before Stone was scheduled to report to prison, Trump commuted his sentence. On August 17, 2020, he dropped the appeal of his convictions. Trump pardoned Stone on December 23, 2020.
I’m about 95% this fucker planned the first attempt on tRump as a publicity stunt. #OperationKonserve
Roger couldn’t plot a circle with a compass.
