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      Lmao

      Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

      Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.

      If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.

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        The whole FAQ is pretty amazing. My favorites:

        How do you know who didn’t vote?

        We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

        The data you have on me is wrong! I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever. I demand you fix this.

        Consider the teachings of Buddhism: “The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don’t wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy.”

        Now, calm your mind and meditate on the knowledge that Cards Against Humanity does not have time for this shit

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          I didn’t vote in 2020 and it says I did, or it says I’m red-leaning when I’m definitely blue, or whatever.

          Realistically they can’t know who you voted for in the past. That you voted is public record, what ballots were voted is public record, but not a connection between voter and ballot. So how you lean is basically a guess based on information they could have (given what it says about me I’m guessing that lack of party affiliation and being in an extremely red state (I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote) are the main factors that drove the assumptions about my leanings that it provided.

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            I used to vote a mixed ticket, but solid blue since 2018 on the grounds that anyone affiliating themselves with the same party that could nominate Trump doesn’t deserve my vote

            Same. I wonder if there has been any analysis on the amount of people that have gone to solid blue all the way down the ballot solely due to Trump.

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        ahahaha!!

        Bad news possibly: are the MAGA schemers gonna send people to the Cards Against Humanity site and then ask for a $50 donation to even things out?

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      Now that’s how you build a proper mobile website!

      Also

      I used to love your card games before you got all political.

      Your mom used to love you before you got so fucking stupid.

      LMFAO, I should steal that and use it against those transphobic turds on Xitter complaining about Godot

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        CAH never really drew me in. I got it was funny madlibs, but I just didn’t care. Now that they got all political, I may get some for my shelf, they deserve it.

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      All I did was put in my current zip code (different than 2020’s), phone, first, and last name, and it pulled up my full name and age and current city and political leaning (very blue).

      Wild that they can just buy this data.

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        Are there any more funny jokes after that button? I only get

        Hi, non-American person.

        Unfortunately, only US citizens (and permanent residents) are eligible to participate in this whole thing. Sorry Canucks and weird British perverts.

        (Which is still funny)

        And how much did they offer you?

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    I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.

    Obviously it’s fucked that Musk started this, and while it’s pretty rad to see CAH surpass his dumb ass, this isn’t going to be the end of it. This is just the genie getting loose.

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            I think it’s because Musk is offering money to people who get other people to sign up and pledge to vote Trump.

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              It doesn’t say anything about voting voting Trump, just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with that, but there’s not the slightest chance in hell I’m voting for Trump.

              Cards Against Humanity however is very carefully threading the needle around committing election fraud. They’re paying you to make a plan to vote, but not based on whether or not you actually follow that plan and vote. The latter is very explicitly turnout buying, what CAH is doing is possibly just far enough away to be legal. I’d be shocked if no one uses them over it though as close as it is.

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                CAH is also clearly saying “what we are doing is fucked up and shouldn’t be legal.” They are bringing attention to the fact that this shouldn’t be legal to encourage laws to be updated.

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                  Yeah, but CAH is cutting it much closer than Musk. Bribing people to sign a petition that says you support basic constitutional rights you already have is a lot farther away from buying votes or buying turnout than what CAH is doing, which is walking as close to the line as they think they can get away with to show just how far out the line is.

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                just blindly saying you support the 1st and 2nd amendment. Like I will gladly and openly say I completely agree with

                Which funny because they’re simultaneously phasing out parts off the first amendment.

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      I love how we’ve managed to come full circle. In the early 1900s buying votes was open and totally normalized.

      Literally one of the reasons we switched to a secret ballot (it’s less effective to buy votes if you can’t know who they voted for) in the first place. The first places to switch started in the 1890s, and the last state to switch over did so in 1950.

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        So for the first time we don’t get lumped in with the yanks, we get lumped in with the Brits instead???

        We just can’t win.

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          Canada is the comma of nations. Technically it’s supposed to be there, but no one notices if it’s missing.

          Canada’s influence is so weak they couldn’t even convince the world their bacon is actually bacon.

          Canada’s claim to fame is being slightly more interesting than North Dakota.

          Canada’s national anthem sounds like an apology letter set to music.

          Canada’s idea of influence is having 90% of their population living within 100 miles of the US border and constantly asking “hey what are you guys up to, eh?”

          Edit: (Love you, Canada!)

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      I’m not Canadian, nor British. I demand an apology! And a proper insult to my nationality! 😄

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        Based on your .nl, I will assume you are tall, ride a bike everywhere, and love cheese. But I’m sure some yank will find something offensive to call you. Just be patient.

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      Same here! As we all would be victims if Trump get reelected, I’d like to support you and buy those cards!

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    If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning and I could get paid for it.

    Must be great to live in one of the seven states that’s allowed to decide our election thanks to the electoral college.

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      State and local elections still matter outside of the electoral college!

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        I’m aware. I already participate in those.

        Doesn’t change the fact that my vote regarding the highest office in the country is a pointless effort.

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      Yes, so you vote this year, get others to vote, and then spend the next 4 years working to overturn the electoral college and get ranked choice voting implemented. If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.

      Stay focused.

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        If you truly care, that’s where you’ll direct that passion.

        Here’s a question: are you doing all of that yourself?

        It just sounds to me like you’re attempting to say that people shouldn’t care or shouldn’t be frustrated if they’re not willing to spend every waking minute of their lives working towards change. And yes, while change does take time and effort, asking average citizens to go above and beyond doing their civic duty of voting is a bit much.

        This genuinely sounds like usual Republican rhetoric of “if you cared so much it wouldn’t be this way.”

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      Yeah, swing states are where it’s at. From Nate Silver’s forecast, the states most likely to tip the election (as of today, Oct 9).

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        I live in the Philly suburbs and it’s disturbing how many Trump signs I see in my area. I really really fucking hope he doesn’t win this state.

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          it’s up to you guys stop stop your neighbors from voting (as well as cast your own ballots). i would use any tool in the bag. this could be the end of the world if he wins. i don’t feel like that’s an exaggeration.

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            I’ve already mailed in my ballot. Not sure what you’re suggesting in terms of stopping my neighbors from voting but that sounds highly illegal.

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              Show me one law that explicitly states it’s illegal to build a 10ft wide moat around my neighbor’s house

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                Presumably that qualifies as vandalism unless you own 10 feet of property in a ring around his house, which is an uncommon situation. Depending on the wording it might also qualify as attempted kidnapping or unlawful imprisonment or something along those lines.

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                  I just looked up the vandalism laws in my state and I didn’t see the sentence “building a most around your neighbor’s house is illegal” anywhere, so I think I’m in the clear

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      I mean, you can vote and still get paid; I don’t live in a swing state but I got a whopping $0.17 for my efforts! It’s moreso about getting a voting plan together.

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      If only I lived in a swing state. Then my vote could have meaning

      You presumably live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party? Otherwise you very definitely don’t wish you were in a swing state.

      To put it simply, swing states are just the biggest states that are purple enough that you can’t safely predict what will happen. States like Texas or California going purple would immediately make them the most important swing state by far.

      The GOP is terrified Texas might become a swing state. If through some strange alchemy California were to become a swing state it would be an existential threat to the Democrats.

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        I fucking WISH we would go at least deep purple. Ive been seeing “Cats for Kamala” and “Harris Walz 2024” all over the place, and while it makes me happy, I also have to remember that I live in a very blue city in Texas. Im worried about all the rural people who are literally afraid of society.

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          So you do live in a state where you are firmly in the minority party, and thus the state going purple can only benefit your party. Imagine you with your current politics moved to California, would you want it to become a purple state?

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    So this is probably a plan to call out Elon musk’s stupid “pay to sign a petition” plan. Basically just buying votes. The more attention these schemes get, the more likely they will be made officially illegal.

    Sort of a Satanic Temple maneuver. I like it.

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      From Apologize.lol

      Cards Against Humanity is exploiting a legal loophole to pay America’s blue-leaning non-voters to (1) apologize for not voting last time, (2) walk us through a step-by-step plan of how they’d vote this time, and (3) post “Donald Trump is a human toilet” on social media. This whole thing should probably be illegal—so quick, give us your money before they change the law!

      Highly recommend giving the whole thing a read. It’s pretty funny (and messed up)

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    Up to their sole discretion they decide to give you between $0.01-$100, via paypal only if you allow them to collect your info and pass that info to “necessary parties”.

    This is well and fine for anyone who doesnt really care about that and im sure they have better interests in line with you moreso than other companies, but figured I’d post their Terms and Conditions for those that it might affect.

    I dont use paypal as its literally one of the worst ways to manage money in the US. So I’m not doing this unfortunately even though i AM voting and didn’t vote in 2020.

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        Absolutely. 2020 made me wildly apathetic towards humanity. I’ve decided to move onto optimistic nihilism instead lol.

        I’ll play the shit out of a violin while the titanic sinks just for the laughs.

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          Hey, welcome to team optimistic nihilism, haha. Nothing matters but at least it’ll be a fun trip down!

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      Expand on why PayPal is especially, specificallyworse than other mainstream payment processing options?

      This is not a reason for me to not participate.

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    I’m pretty sure they’re using the money from Elmo using a plot of their land they bought to stall the border wall

    It’s just a shame we don’t have an option this election for a president against a border wall…

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      They said they were sharing the Elmo money with those who originally helped them buy that plot.

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      Great way for me to learn Ohio is considered a lost cause I guess? Not sure if i disagree (or care), for that matter; I want out.

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      Now that you mention it, anyone still using Twitter could just go right now and tweet Donald Trump is a human toilet for free. And they could right now. Go do it.

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    Federal law prohibits anyone from knowingly or willfully paying or offering to pay or accepting payment for registering to vote or voting (42 USC § 1973i©). It applies to primaries and elections that have candidates on the ballot for the office of president, vice president, presidential elector, or member of Congress, whether or not the violation alleges payment related to a candidate for one of those particular offices. It includes criminal penalties for violations. - https://www.cga.ct.gov/2001/rpt/2001-R-0132.htm

    It sucks when Elon does this shit just as much as when someone does it for your team, guys.

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      The CAH folks have pretty good lawyers. Judging purely on the fact that they formed a Super PAC, they likely have good legal cover.

      I found this pretty interesting:

      How do you know who didn’t vote? We formed a Super PAC and bought the personal voting records of every American citizen from a data broker we found on the internet. It’s pretty fucked up.

      And later on:

      How do you know who’s “blue leaning”? We got your partisan lean from the same data broker who sold us your voting history. You wouldn’t believe how easy it was for us to get this stuff. So fucked up!

      If they are basing this on which primary you vote in, it’s going to be terrible since people like me who live in a swing state vote in the Republican primary since that’s a more effective use of my vote than the Democratic primary.

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        I question the accuracy of their political lean assessment. I’m blazingly progressive and it has me down as “purple”. Bitch, I’m a socialist.

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        I dont doubt that they have good lawyers but the law doesn’t just have penalties for the people paying out, it also has penalties for accepting it. Even if they were offering free legal services to people who participate it still wouldn’t be worth it.

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      Hm, the tweet says they need to make a voting plan, not that they need to show that they’ve officially registered or voted. Loophole?

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        Try giving that loophole explanation to a Trump appointed judge and see how far that gets you. Do not risk federal charges for this stupid shit.

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          Try giving that loophole explanation to any reasonable and professional judge and see how far that gets you.

          Flip the sides and I would be surprised if a Trump appointed judge didnt accept some kind of bullshit loophole like this.

          I love CAH as much as the next degen but this feels iffy at best. But also they presumable ran this passed at least one lawyer who said ‘fuck it lets ball’ so maybe there is a leg to stand on here.

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            I really do not think its worth gambling with federal charges over (up to*)$100, but if you’re willing to risk it by all means, submit to their public shaming for a pittance, or implicate yourself by contributing. I just want people to know what they’re getting into.

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              My guy, I’m agreeing with your point. This probably wouldn’t hold up as legal in court, but also IANAL.

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                apologies, I misread. i’m maybe a little more annoyed about this than I realized.

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      They’re not paying you to vote, they’re paying for you to apologize. I’m sure they have sufficient legal backing.

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    I will absolutely share this around after checking it out myself, but what is a good response for the inevitable “they’re bribing people to vote”?

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      They are, but they’re doing it to troll Elon offering $47 for referrals of swing voters willing to sign petitions supporting conservative ideals.

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      They’re paying for an apology for not voting in 2020, there’s no obligation to vote in 2024.

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      I live in texas. Send me a venmo link. Ill buy the cards through their portal, ship them to you, and match your contribution to elevatedaccess.org to provide funding to individuals in need of abortion transportation and gender affirming care. I already fly for them. This is the least i can do. Lets go.

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        No easy way to send money over the border. No venmo, and our ‘interac Etransfer’ doesn’t work for American banks :/

        I got a buddy in California who’s gonna buy it and ship it to me

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          I did not know that. Til.

          The offer still stands, through alternative means apparently.

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          PayPal isn’t great but it’s a relatively easy way to send money and very common.

          There’s also Wise, and various other smaller apps.

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          How great is etransfer, though? Venmo seems like total trash from what I’ve seen of it.

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        As buying the card seems to be a political donation I don’t think that would be very legal. Afaik it is highly illegal to donate on behave of a non-citizen or non-resident.

        But idk what the law says about donating more then you can afford and then stabalizing your finances by selling a whole bunch of vanity CAH cards on ebay.

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    Her’s how you might also be able to help:

    Is there some way I can force Elon Musk to pay $47 to Cards Against Humanity PAC?

    Funny you should ask! If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put “MuskIsDumb@cah.lol” as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47. The more people who do this, the more Musk money we’ll get to un-fuck America.

    If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.