A broadly educated population is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative ideologies.
I would suggest it’s the conservative ideologies that are toxic, education is the antidote.
I’d posit both statements are true and fundamentally complimentary.
Well, toxins are
inorganicnot really alive, so they’re not really killed by antidotesNow if the analogy were infections an antibiotics….
(Edit corrected a word. Apparently, toxins are produced by organisms, got confused for a second there.)
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Conservatism is about favoring tradition and supporting the status quo. Going this wild about a common grammatical construct because it reminds you of people you hate for existing isn’t conservative, it’s something far worse.
Conservatism is about favoring tradition and supporting the status quo.
That’s just what Conservatism claims to be about, but it has always been regressive
I think we agree that most self-identified conservatives aren’t actually very invested in the status quo or tradition, and are actually regressive reactionaries, but I think it’s a clearer point to say that most self-identified conservatives aren’t in fact conservative, than that conservatism isn’t actually what people (claim they) mean when they say conservative. At that point, conservatism loses its meaning.
At that point, conservatism loses its meaning.
Conservatism hasn’t lost its meaning, conservatism just never meant what conservatives claimed it meant; it’s always been a façade.
Conservatism is about conserving (and reinforcing) power structures; all talk about ‘tradition’ and ‘stability’/‘status-quo’ is wool over your eyes.
The status quo is white supremacy, patriarchy, gender norms, and capitalism. That is what they are conserving. Those are the traditions.
And the preservative is done through fear.
Conservatism is about favoring tradition and supporting the status quo.
No, that’s a lie conservatives tell to make their ideology seem less abhorrent.
What conservatism is actually about is perpetuating hierarchy.
That would be the tradition they favor.
One could argue that so called “traditions” they are holding so much dearly in their heart never was fully a thing and is just the product of past idealizations and marketing propaganda. “The perfect suburban american trad family” from the 60s is a construct made by marketing people to sell fridges, diamond and beautiful car.
Idealizing a fake era of greatness which came before the weak, but also very powerful bad people took it away.
Now where have I heard that one before? 🤔
It was an era of greatness, but conservatives destroyed it.
An era of greatness… for white people.
Climate change is a thing and back then life was cheaper, this “MuH WhIte PeOpLe” shit needs to stop. 80s and 90s were not some sort of ethnonationalist world where black people were genocided.
I thought we were talking about the 1960s? You know, the era that where black people didn’t have civil rights or even voting rights in some places legally until the middle of the decade and were still being lynched in significant numbers? The era where both Malcolm X and Dr. King were assassinated?
I stand by my comment.
“The perfect suburban american trad family” from the 60s
Had one working parent and stay at home moms. But they don’t give a single fuck about that part of it, do they?
They don’t talk about the 90% top tax rate either.
“Nobody paid that. They just reinvested in their company [and their employees and reputation] instead.”
No shit. Sounds great. Let’s do that.
The world is honestly too far into the crumbles for it to work like that anymore, they would just use circuitous accounting to funnel it into bunkers, militarized yachts, private armies, and extra planetary fever dreams.
Can’t just give up though. It’s one step towards making things better.
We don’t have to solve it all at once.
In liberal democracy, the status quo is liberalism. Conservatism was to conserve the monarchy and aristocracy.
There is a difference between historical conservatism and what it has become. Even setting that aside, there is much daylight between what a movement will profess and what it will ultimately produce.
No, there really isn’t. True conservatism is an unbroken line from royalists, to confederates, to nazis, to Trump.
It’s the allegedly small government, pro-freedom “conservatives” – i.e. self-deluded liberals who mislabeled themselves – who were the aberration.
What’s the most confrontational way to respond to someone who agrees with you?
I think you dropped your writing prompt
Fascism. The word you want is fascism.
Imagine being so scared of pronouns that you tear up a little kid’s English homework. Like, can you really be that dense? What’s next, Adjectives?!
Modern conservatism is mental illness - it’s not a case of being dense - it’s a case of being genuinely disabled.
Ironic for a political ideology grounded in and returning to eugenics.
This is a disgusting thing to type, especially considering how eugenics is used against the disabled
You’re getting downvoted because you’re more disgusted by people talking about the problem than you are by the problem.
Denying eugenics would be disgusting,
Covering for those that support eugenics would be disgusting,
Being disgusted by someone pointing out the disgusting hypocrisy of eugenics and modern conservatism is disgusting.
Pointing out how monstrous and hypocritical modern conservatives and eugenicists are is a moral good.
I think you’re missing the point of the original comment. Describing modern conservatism as a disability at once absolves conservatives of their responsibility not to hold abhorrent views, by classing it as a characteristic they have no control over, and lumps people with disabilities into a group that, in a non-insignificant number of cases, wants them dead or sterilised.
That’s why the commenter was upset with you; not because you’ve criticised eugenics, but because you’ve been massively insensitive, and when someone pointed out that insensitivity you became defensive and attacked them in return.
I don’t think sane people are able to believe in things like Jewish space lasers, so I don’t think your average GOP voter should be held accountable for believing that kind of nonsense - they should be provided mental health care and an education in critical thinking skills. The people spreading those insane lies are a different story.
Look, it’s clear that you hate disabled people quite a bit, and that’s what I and others take offense to, not your criticisms of conservatism…
Are you a liar, or is the issue that you have toddler-tier reading comprehension? Let’s parse this out and see - what’s the basis for your wrong, not to mention stupid assumption that I hate disabled people?
I’m disgusted by people who use disability as a pejorative.
Attack Republicans all you want, but drag marginalized people into your insults and you can go fuck yourself.
Republicanism isn’t a mental disability. It’s a moral failure.
Believing in deep-state Jewish space lasers, the sinister communist plot to steal the election, and roving gangs of Haitians snatching up and barbecuing dogs is totally rational stuff, I hear.
I don’t care if I get downvoted, I’m not here for that. I have been downvoted recently by neoliberals on this site for literally saying everyone should have the right to vote (and I quoted Lyndon B Johnson and the fucking constitution about this), so we can see how much a downvote is worth here. This isn’t a site for leftists or progressives, or even people with a basic understanding of the Civil Rights Era, and I understand that. So ofc there is someone advocating for something Nazi adjacent here, like medicalizing an entire voting base. Medicalizing something that isn’t a medical condition, especially acting as if their cognition is what is wrong, is something historically done to women in the US right before they got fucking lobotomized and put into conservatorship. It’s a conviction and punishment with no trial. Fascism. Not to mention what the actual Nazis did to people they considered disabled.
It’s not “pointing out” anything to medicalize them. It’s an attempt to erode their rights by using laws that ALREADY abuse disabled people.
It’s so funny how disabled people are the perfect weapon for pieces of shit who dont care about them. No one cares about helping the disabled unless it means they can weaponize them against another group they hate. Usually it’s the homeless but ig today it’s conservatives.
Yep - it’s rational, correct cognition to think that Haitians are stealing and eating people’s dogs, that Jewish space lasers caused the California wildfires, that a multi-trillion dollar fence will stop illegal immigration, that Hannibal Lecter was a real and good person, that Clinton should be locked up, but I’m voting for the felon, that the election was stolen, that the Democratic Party is a sinister communist cabal, that Michelle Obama is a man, that Biden has opened the borders and is importing millions of immigrants to steal the election, that the deep state is conspiring to do everything we don’t like…
These are the mainstream views of the party as propagated by its leaders - it says nothing of the chemtrails making the frogs gay, hollow earth types.
…and here you are, fantasising about me abusing and weaponising the disabled - maybe even pushing for a little light lobotomy because that allows you to feel morally superior. Personally, I’d recommend stepping out of your fantasy, grounding your comments in reality and being morally superior, but what would my apparently Nazi arse know?
Most conservatives don’t believe in those things, though. That’s all propaganda being fed to them.
I’m not fantasizing about your views regarding the disabled, I’m taking issue with what you literally said and explained why. If you don’t understand ableism, that’s on you.
Propaganda they believe.
No, if you can’t draw the line between me advocating for greater support for a community, and my exploitation of that community, that’s on you, my guy.
If you would like to find more of your kind go to hexbear.net
Sane people stay away
That’s the point.
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You’re right, and I don’t want you to feel like no-one agrees with you.
Modern conservativism should be treating by banning the mentally ill from running for office and by imprisoning them.
I don’t think we should be imprisoning the mentally ill (that’s more of a conservative thing) - I think we should be giving them access to treatment. From there, the bulk of the conservative brain damage should resolve itself.
Imprisoning those inciting violence against minorities based on lies and attempting to overthrow the government based on more lies seems like a responsible step in protecting Americans and American democracy though.
By “imprisoning the mentally ill” I was saying “imprison the conservatives”.
It’s hyperbole. They were mocking you for using “mentally disabled” as an insult. You’re the one talking like a conservative right now, using disability as a pejorative.
It’s not true when Conservatives say “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, just as it’s not true when Liberals say “Conservatism is a mental disorder”. The only thing that’s true in that context is that supporters of both major parties have no problem throwing people with mental disabilities under-the-bus over politics.
Republicans are stupid, they are ignorant, they are hateful; but none of those things constitutes a disability. If they did, I would have compassion like I would for any other disabled person.
So you think Jewish space lasers, the communist plot to steal the election, and Haitians barbecuing dogs is rational stuff that any well-adjusted person could believe?
This isn’t the GOP of a couple of decades ago that was wrong and monstrous - this is actual insanity.
I’m not saying that Republicans are well-adjusted or that their beliefs are defensible. I’m saying that they aren’t mentally disabled, and you shouldn’t use disability as a cudgel to bash in people you don’t like. Stupidity isn’t a disability, nor is evil, and I have no intent of treating them like they are.
You either want to protect Republican beliefs as a byproduct of a disability, which to that I say: fuck that, I intend to hold Republicans responsible for what they say and do.
Or you want disabled people to be punished for being disabled, because you think mental disability is a trait worthy of condemnation, which to that I say: fuck off you fucking fascist, disabled people deserve compassion and support.
I believe that Republicans are of sound mind, and are either extremely stupid or extremely evil. I offer zero forgiveness for those things. They should be held responsible for it, and not given the easy cop-out of being “disabled”.
If it were a disability, I wouldn’t hate them, I would pity them. I don’t pity them, I hate them, because everything that’s wrong with them is their fucking fault.
The level of stupidity required to believe the legitimately insane mainline GOP narrative is clear, unambiguous evidence of a significant cognitive impairment - i.e. a disability.
I don’t support punishing vulnerable people that have been exploited - I support getting them help. The liars should certainly be held to account, but I think your average GOP voter is sincere in their belief - that’s how Trump becomes such a central pillar of their identity.
Shall I take your arguments that my position is fascistic or hateful exploitation of the disabled as I advocate for support for the disabled to stop them being exploited by the GOP as extreme, evil stupidity?
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They’d probably burn the science books purely based on the fact it’s science.
But when they learn about homosapiens theyll lose their shit about a gay agenda
Imagine believing a reddit story.
Oh man, I would have never known if you hadn’t pointed it out. Thank you so much! /s
Regardless of the validity of this story, I guarantee someone out there has done this to a certain extent. People get worked up about pronouns to such a degree that this almost seems like a relatively tame reaction.
Have you read the comments here? People just eat it up. Well yeah somewhere out there maybe perhaps. Hey some Haitians might eat their pets it could happen. Don’t trust Haitians, i heard they eat pets.
George does not like pronouns. George tries to keep George’s temper under George’s control when the (plural) people George interacts with use pronouns.
The plural form is clearly peopleses.
Peops?
Popeses
Those are the guys wearing hats that look like ppses
Why’d you call me cat over?
Funnily enough this is how many non-binary people want to be adressed in german, as the equivalent of “they” (sie) is not used as a neutral version of he/she. Probably because “sie” is the same word as “sie” (she).
That’s a well radicalised obedient party soldier who will stop at nothing once you point at an inconvenient target and say the right buzzwords. Real Jan6 material, just as planned and executed for decades.
I mean, it’s a Reddit story, so grain of salt.
But it is a very funny story
Yeah this is peak reddit story telling. I can even see the top comment: this is MORE than mildly infuriating. That’s why it’s posted there, engagement farming
So is this bit about some delinquent fascist with dementia who was already president once up for bid again. Also, that when he don’t win, there will be a coup like when JFK was assassinated by the corporations that successfully sold it as being conducted by anyone else.
…and “bid” because let’s be real. The whole shebang is a fucking auction that has sold the fucking business of “Government” to the corporations respected by allowing them to STOP PAYING %78 IN TAXES.
Also, that when he don’t win, there will be a coup like when JFK was assassinated
JFK very explicitly pissed off the CIA when he fired a bunch of the Bay of Pigs hawks and failed to escalate with Cuba after the missile crisis.
Harris isn’t doing anything like that. She’s fully endorsed our militarism abroad and our police state at home.
If she catches a bullet, it’ll be for the same reason Trump nearly did - because he was sloppy with his security detail and they were phoning in their end of the job.
CIA is just as up for bid as the president. This is Capitalizm!
Left or right is irrelevant this is a person who follows propaganda without question. Both sides do exactly the same, and have fools who follow blindly.
Holy shit, wait, what if we convince them that gender is a liberal hoax?
Your flaw in logic and reasoning is applying logic and reasoning.
Dude doesn’t even remember elementary school English lessons.
No, we convince them that having sex is woke.
It doesn’t work that way. These “people’s” worldview is “heads I win, tails you lose.” They will be selectively hyper-credulous to whatever bullshit they want to believe, while turning into hyper-skeptics about anything they don’t want to believe.
You will never, ever win against them with a logical argument, not even reverse psychology, because the only rules they play by are the ones they make up second-by-second to make them victorious against you.
Gender is why we need all the different pronouns in the first place.
Don’t they already believe that? What you call gender is a concept they don’t believe in. They use the word as a synonym for assigned sex.
On one hand, this is obviously fake
On the other hand, there’s 7 billion people on the planet and the odds that one of them would do this is very high
The year was 1991.
My roommate decides to eat hot dogs.
We keep breads in the freezer so they last. Toaster is broken.
I tell this to my roommate before I go to the toilet.
I come out and I see a pot of boiling water with hot dogs and hot dog buns in it.
My roommate decided to boil bread to warm it up.People can be far stupider than you could possibly ever imagine.
I had a friend that liked to put butter and honey on his bread before he put it in a two slice toaster. He did this every morning for years.
Each time the toaster broke or caught fire, he would put it out and get a new toaster and repeat the process. He may still be doing it to this day.
Should’ve just bought him a toaster oven
I told him to buy one. He didn’t like them. Kept using his toaster.
He was not stupid, but he was an idiot.
I fucking love toaster ovens. I wish we didn’t have a small kitchen.
George Carlin once said “Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
I’ve been thinking about that a lot lately.
Did he eat the bread sog sacks?
He just dipped the hot dogs in ketchup and at them while I pissed myself laughing.
I’m less offended at the boiled bread than I am at the boiled hotdogs.
you might as well just eat them cold, they’re precooked. You heat them on a pan (or grill) to add FLAVOR. boiling generally removes flavor. Browning the skin in some way (Grill, pan, those rollers at gas stations,) is that flavor.
The only exception to boiling removing flavor is hot dog carts and stands and such like, where the water hasn’t been changed… ever… Yes. it tastes amazing. no. You don’t want to know why that is.
Bao hot dogs where?
Not necessarily. As someone who worked in education for a bit. You’d be suprised how crazy parents can act, and how they can overinterpret everything as political.
One parent got mad I was teaching the students about “radicals”… in math. (you know the opposite of the exponent, the radical).
I think (hope) they felt very embarrassed when I explained that to them.
Is it obviously fake? In a country where far stupider shit happens regularly?
Yeah this looks fake because it’s a dramatization of reality. I’ve seen young dudes IRL argue whether it’s “gay” to wash the balls, and the unmentionables behind that. Literally just soap and water bathing. We’re talking people so uneducated they don’t know the word “gooch” or “taint”, or anything similar. There’s always at least one older dude who leaves to shower like a normal person, but he’ll be back later to buy some weed.
Tangent, but can you imagine buying weed from someone who doesn’t wash their ass? That’s part of the history of the war on drugs. Unwashed perineums, in your lungs.
Tangent, but can you imagine buying weed from someone who doesn’t wash their ass?
When you can’t get it legally, you do what you gotta do.
*8 billion since 2022
Well I know what my mom would do. She’d kick that bf in the nuts for getting mad at her kid like that, lol.
I am not being hyperbolic.
Yeah, my mom would dropped that like it was hot. I was home schooled because we moved so much (poor, not military). When we got to the science module of the school books when I was ± 8 years old, she realized just how much fundamentalist bullshit was in them. She has spent basically everything on those books, and we never used them again. Went to the local library and got all the science books she could, and taught actual science to me. The books they had sent literally had drawings on humans wearing leopard skins foraging for berries while a dinosaur drank water in the background.
Lol what :-D I’d love to see that picture!! Hope you’re doing okay and what a lovely mother!
Oh you don’t need a picture from a book. There’s a whole museum dedicated to that bullshit now.
Have you seen Forrest Valkai’s new video?
Eric Hovind made a laughably awful Night at the Museum rip-off at the creation museum, and Forrest tears it apart.
Fun. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks.
I’ve worked security at the Noah’s ark museum. I should try to get a post at the dragon museum there, help fill out my bingo card lmao
It’s the middle of the night for me, so I didn’t look to find the picture, but a beka books are the books I used until I was 8, when the science modules started. I had severe struggles learning how to read with them, too. My mom got sing, spell, read and write from a friend of a friend, and I went from literally nothing to reading without issue within a month. Basically, a beka is absolute trash and should be forced to shut down. They’re absolutely horrible.
But, one really cool thing, when she discovered how bad the a beka books were, and she got text books from the local library (which the state of Virginia never told her was an option when she called to get everything set up for the homeschooling. They told her to use a beka), our options exploded. There were so many, and I was able to go to the local library and do my studying because my neighborhood had a library in it. I ended up graduating 12th grade at 14, because we didn’t take summers off, and curriculum was basically designed specifically for me. I’m not against homeschooling, a lot of people assume I am when I mention those books, but I am against religious fundamentalism being passed off as state approved education.
Sorry, that was really long. Tl;Dr my mama is fucking awesome, and a beka books are absolute garbage. Lol
Kick him in the nuts before also kicking him to the curb for being unbelievably dumb?
A Teacher in Utah was fired for writing an educational blog post about homophones.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/blogger-fired-homophones_n_5637873
I swear, I’ve been thinking there’s nothing from the US that can surprise me anymore, but this did get me.
How can there be no-one there in any position of power to ask “wtf are you doing”?
The thing that really gets me about this story is it was an ESL School. The students were mostly adults learning to speak English. Not only should an ESL school understand the English language well enough to know what a homophone is, homophones are an extremely important concept for non-native English speakers because that kind of word can cause lexical confusion.
This teacher was fired for doing his job correctly.
He isn’t a teacher he’s a social media provocateur I would take that story with a huge grain of salt.
Christ it’s the pediatrician named Peter Phile from Brasseye. Satire is dead.
Homophobes? Pronouns? SEEMS one sided to me.
Teach the kids Heterophobes too.
Give both sides: pro-nouns and pro-verbs.
Stop with this culture war in our SCHOOLS.
“may see the ‘homo’ side and think it has something to do with gay sex.”
Better not let him see assume, class, bass (ironically a homophone) or many other words with such scandalous suffixes lol
This is how extremism works. If they get rid of knowledge they then control the knowledge and how it’s interpreted. Especially how people are educated.
Wonder if this is real or just ragebait, really can’t be sure in the current day lmao
I saw a meme yesterday that references this phenomenon:
“the saying used to be ‘it’s too good to be true’ has morphed into ‘it’s too horrid to be false.’”
On reddit it’s usually best to just assume something is for attention
The fascinating thing about these stories is that 10+ years ago people were all like: pics or didn’t happen.
Now everyone is up in arms to defend these stories they want to believe in. /R/nOtHiNgEvErHaPpEnS
That’s a good point, I am surprised by the amount of people who don’t seem to care if something is true as long as it’s “entertaining”. It’s probably a similar mindset to enjoying reality TV or pro wrestling?
I agree. It can go either the way, the story is written in such a manner for people to be angry. However, I could easily see someone becoming so brain washed by conservative media to actually believe this.
It is documented that watching Fox News is terrible. Or that people will believe even the most insane conspiracy theory. I think it’s safe to assume that there are indeed people out there who do believe pronouns only exist because of trans people and the “Left”.
Any person who freaks out over grammar lessons and destroys a child’s homework is completely unhinged and seriously needs some mental health care interventions.
That lack of impulse control and rage has no place in a family setting… or anywhere really.
I guess these are the family values conservatives are pushing these days. Grown men ripping up a kid’s homework assignments. I guess book burning wasn’t enough.
Seems like everything is a pronoun these days. Anything can be a pronoun too. Could I even be one?
Mr. Rogers says you can do anything you want if you use your imagination.
Also
theseand one in that context.Edit: these is functioning as an adjective there
I wish, with every fiber of my being, that this is not real
Sadly, if my abusive step dad were still alive I absolutely can see him doing this
That guy is voting. Probably for the Nazi.
Probably? Probably at least twice.
That’s far more than mildly infuriating. I’d consider this child abuse.
I hope this kid escapes this clearly toxic situation.
The mother has some question to answer when it comes to her BF choices.
