• PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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    The only way someone could pretend they’re the same is if they’re either well outside where the differences are clearest, or they just aren’t paying attention and getting all their news from someone from the first category.

    “Both sides same” and any attempt to act like there’s a dimension where it totally applies trust ne bro is a position fundamentally rooted in the privilege to feel a negligible difference between annoyingly status quo adherent centrists and actual goddamned fascists.

    Not to mention how that specific meme implies queer folks and black people aren’t a part of the working class, which just kinda gives the whole game away with what a lot of people in american right wing politics, and a depressing number of self proclaimed progressives and leftists, are actually saying whenever they bemoan that we’re not paying enough attention to the working class instead of tackling social equity issues.

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      The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal Order by Gary Gerstle:

      https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/92993192-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-neoliberal-order-america-and-the-world-in-the

      A political order must have the ability to shape the core ideas of political life. It must be able to do so not just for one political party’s most ardent supporters but for people located across the political spectrum. The New Deal order sold a large majority of Americans on the proposition that a strong central state could manage a dynamic but dangerous capitalist economy in the public interest. The neoliberal order persuaded a large majority of Americans that free markets would unleash capitalism from unnecessary state controls and spread prosperity and personal freedom throughout the ranks of Americans and then throughout the world. Neither of these propositions today commands the support or authority that they once possessed. Political disorder and dysfunction reign. What comes next is the most important question in the United States, and the world, now face.

      Capitalism has already killed us all. https://www.ecowatch.com/planetary-boundaries-ocean-acidification-climate-science.html

      We’ve already died, just waiting for the last gasps of society, and yes it’s been the Democrat’s fault too. Like the time they gave Trump the 2016 election because they didn’t want Bernie to win, and in court admitted they did not have to have impartial elections. I will never forget watching Debbie Wasserman-Schulz’s testimony and I unregistered as a Democrat because of it. There are SERIOUS problems in the Democratic party. Not least because they adhere to capitalism and neoliberalism. Which again, has literally extincted almost our whole planet.

      https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/what-is-the-sixth-mass-extinction-and-what-can-we-do-about-it

      The working class will die first, as will all groups that get labeled outsiders or burdens until the rich are left to die somewhat reminiscent of the Titanic sub: from their own hubris and inability to submit to mother earth.

      I’ve seen tornados. What is going to happen to our planet is much more extreme. Billions will die and probably no humans will make it due to massive ecosystem collapse and species diversity collapse.

      Your last paragraph doesn’t make sense. The point is that Dems use advertisements and marketing to say “no” to specific voting demographics while not helping them, either. It is saying nothing about queer or black people being working class or not.

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        God it’s like I can hear how white you are.

        It literally is a statement that the interests of black and queer folks are contrary to the interests of “tHe WoRkInG cLaSs” to continue shitting on them without any expectation to be better because poor white people and straight people also participate in systemic oppression.

        As for Bernie, people didn’t turn out to vote for him, and he lost because of it, end of story. There was a bias against him from the democratic establishment, but acting like that absolves his supporters of having the turnout energy of cosmic background radiation is deflection of the fucking first order, and suggesting that Trump happened as some kind of punishment of the DNC establishment for not throwing out their own damn vote tallies and just handing the guy who’s not even a party member the nomination because some quixotic white kids got especially loud about it just reeks of the kind of privilege that is exactly what I was suspecting earlier.

        Like fuck man, you just spouted off ranting about your god given right to just give up and let everyone around you bite it like it’s an indication of anything but your own abject failure as a human being with an allegedly functioning sense of empathy.

        You’re not smarter than everyone else because you want to blame everyone else for you not wanting to do anything to help, you’re just a wordier sort of dickwad.

        Rot and die on your own time jackass.