• Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
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    How 'bout we compromise? No reproductive rights or universal healthcare for conservatives. We’ll call it “Democratic Healthcare”. Anyone can opt in. Conservatives can choose to stay the fuck out of it and cling to their proud fascist ideals all the way to their graves.

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    Who wants to bail out every private for-profit corporation that we allowed to get so big it threatens our economy and national security?

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    “Who wants Voter ID?”

    Hands up, cheering

    “Who wants to give free ID’s to people?”

    Awkward silence

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        There already exists a national ID card. It’s called a passport card and costs $30 to apply for. You can apply by post but it’s cumbersome because you need proof of citizenship, a passport photo, and it takes several weeks to receive.

        It’s called a “passport card” because it’s also valid for international travel by land or sea within North America and the Caribbean.

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            Yep. The passport card is the American national identity card.

            Americans have several forms of identity cards. There’s the famous green card for non-citizen permanent residents, passports and passport cards, military IDs for military personnel, school and university ID cards, and ID cards issued by states.

            Passport books in America work the same as passports in every other country. You apply for one and it’s a little booklet that lets you travel internationally.

            A passport card is a national identity card that is legally identical to a passport book for identity and citizenship verification purposes.

            Green cards are cards issued to immigrants who have been granted permanent residency.

            The most popular form of identification card is an identification card issued by a state’s motor vehicle agency. These function as identification cards only and are not proof of nationality or immigration status. If the holder is also licensed to drive, the words “identification card” are replaced with the words “driving license”. The card is otherwise the same.

            Military ID cards are issued by the military to soldiers and civilian staff members.

            Student ID cards are issued by educational institutions to their pupils.

            All of these documents are valid identity documents and can be used for any purpose (except that student ID cards are generally not valid for voting, buying alcohol, opening bank accounts, admission into casinos, or anything that requires the holder to be of adult age). Domestic airplane flights require a “REAL ID”-compliant identity card, which includes everything except student ID cards old state-issued identity cards, because those cards generally are valid for 10 years or more, and some are very old and lack security features present in newer cards.

            The passport book and passport card can be used for land and sea travel within North America. The other documents cannot.

            The disgusting thing is that other than university and school ID cards and military ID cards, none of these documents are issued for free. All of them require a fee to be paid before they are issued, which is why voter ID laws are controversial in the USA; they discriminate against those who cannot afford to pay the fees for an identity card and the offices where people can apply for them generally aren’t located in the poorer areas of cities. Applying for a state-issued ID card is also generally an all-day affair as queues at the motor vehicle agency offices are very, very long.

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            The passport card is legally equivalent to a passport book within the United States. It’s also conclusive proof of citizenship (rather than presumptive proof, like a birth certificate).

            It’s popular in the border regions because it’s cheaper than a passport book and can be used to enter Canada or Mexico by car.

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    Yeah children would be much more attainable if our system was more like Norway where the baby can basically be with mom for 18 months before she returns to work.

    In the US they basically expect you back as soon as they baby has left the womb

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    I had so many people try to tell me why free lunch for children is bad and it never came down to anything but I don’t like paying for other people’s kids.

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      I believe part of free lunch was pushed by Eisenhower, who didn’t want malnourished troops. Odd for the patriotic to not see this any more.

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        Because poor desperate people is easier to convince to fight petty oil wars. They learn you can only push to far with conscriptions before people start rebeling.

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      Theres a neighbor that doesnt want to add more ambulances only cause they dont want to pay more taxes. Like dude, we have 4 ambulances for 100,000 people.

      Some people just dont care, even when they know they’ll benefit from it, too.

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      Which is extra hilarious when you realize all we have to do is start actually charging wealthy people taxes and regular people wouldn’t have to pay for anything

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        Raise the standard deduction and poverty line to 100k. Set income tax at a flat 10%.

        Also, the richest person every year has 50% of their net worth redistributed, and we build a statue in their honor.

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    Their sentiment is that these young women should be saving themselves for their future husbands, and if they don’t, they’re whores who are getting what they deserve. It goes towards their belief that a man has a right to a woman because she is less than him.

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    If you want the ideological underpinnings of these arguments, there are a few.

    The biggest one always boils down to the assertion that Government Is Paying For The Abortions. And that this is bad because it creates an incentive for young people to go out and have unmarried sex.

    But there’s a second, arguably more insidious argument that you see crop up on the libertarian-right, which asserts the idea of “negative rights”. These are obligations of inaction that a state can impose on an individual or group, on the grounds that is makes others more free. In this case, the argument is that the fetus has a negative right with respect to the mother. Once you’re pregnant, you no longer have rights to your own body because another person is occupying it. This reasoning stems from the claim that fathers have an equal share in the property that is the child. This community property needs to be protected from a woman who wants to discharge her obligations prematurely at a loss to the man.

    Pregnancy becomes a kind of debt that an impregnated woman owes to the impregnating man (and, by extension, the man’s family who also gets some degree of claim to the fetus). The woman is in debt bondage until the pregnancy is over. And the state - which libertarian ideology asserts should exist only to enforce property rights - has an obligation to obstruct the woman from evading payment of what is owed.

    By contrast, all those state liabilities - health care, education, social services for children - are “positive rights”. Libertarians assert that these rights are actually an unlawful infringement on one human by another, because they must be paid for out of a communal set of resources. The mother cannot demand any recompense for her maternal state. The child cannot demand any basic standard of living as a minor. These all have to come from another adult (in a libertarian patriarchy, that means the father) and that once again infringes on his property.

    It really does just boil down to the idea of Communism Bad.

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      Once you’re pregnant, you no longer have rights to your own body because another person is occupying it.

      Let’s harvest the bodies of people believing in this for healthy organs and blood, to save world-class violinists from dying! /s

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      Once you’re pregnant, you no longer have rights to your own body because another person is occupying it.

      Except that a clump of a cells is not a person, so I am not sure how this argument holds.

      This reasoning stems from the claim that fathers have an equal share in the property that is the child.

      So, does that mean all sperm a man is carrying is also subject to community property rights? Don’t masturbate and destroy shared property, or you can be sued 😂 Sex cells and their less-developed products are not humans and as such not subject to any rights.

      By contrast, all those state liabilities - health care, education, social services for children - are “positive rights”. Libertarians assert that these rights are actually an unlawful infringement on one human by another, because they must be paid for out of a communal set of resources.

      These kind of services and rights are the reason why people formed civilizations in the first place, that is more organized allocation of resources. They didn’t form civilizations and societies to make some billionaire assholes richer. They don’t maintain social contracts out of the goodness of their hearts or because they’re weak, but because civilization and society provides for them in meaningful and substantial ways. Otherwise it’s slavery, and they have the right to eat the assholes who oppress them.

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    The authoritarians are the party of telling people “No”. Want body autonomy? No. Want control on whether to raise a healthy child? No. Want help with the child? No.

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    I think we would all love to fund all of that…but Americas problem is it’ll take tax payer money and devote 99 cents of every dollar towards “defense”. all that is really needed is a halfing of the military/dod budget and reallocate funds similar to what is requested.

    …but who votes for that…

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      If we actually taxed billionaires and millionaires and large corporations like we used to, we could fund it easily.

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      All that money goes to the pockets of billionaires that give politicians money. That’s why government contracts for companies are so high.

      We are paying taxes and a large chunk of it goes to wealthy.