Jill Stein "grateful" for support among Muslim voters nationwide
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Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein appreciates the "strong support" she's getting from Muslim voters, especially in battleground states.
  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
    17·
    2 months ago

    Which would completely devastate American Muslims and what they want. The only thing Stein can do is throw the election to Trump.

    Here’s Trump’s agenda:

    He wants Israel to kill people faster:

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-biden-israel-pr-hugh-hewitt-21faee332d95fec99652c112fbdcd35d

    “They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

    He wants to revoke the citizenship from Americans:

    https://www.aclu.org/documents/trump-administrations-plan-strip-citizenship-thousands-americans

    And daetain them in concentration camps:

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-does-not-rule-out-building-detention-camps-mass-deportations-2024-04-30/

    And do the same thing to Mexico that Israel does to Lebanon:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_occupation_of_Southern_Lebanon

    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-mexico-military-cartels-war-on-drugs-1234705804/

        • anticolonialist@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          When our government is funding and providing the weapons to kill their families they are directly involved.

          Imagine defending government actions to the right of Reagan and Thatcher.

          • pooperNickel@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 months ago

            You are such a tiring pest. All you do is be contrary and judgy of anyone who doesn’t believe your lies.

  • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ
    6·
    2 months ago

    Loving these posts from you, bc the comments section is often a convenient list of users to block. Checking in on your posts to block people has improved my experience on Lemmy a lot

    • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      Agreed. So clearly a shill, it’s pitiful. Hope they don’t get sent to the front, though. 🫣😅🤷🏼‍♂️

      • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ
        2·
        2 months ago

        Soon enough, I’ll be able to state that I’m voting for Stein if Harris doesn’t commit to ending military aid to Israel (and support M4A or similar), and anyone with something dumb to say about that simply won’t show up on my screen

            • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
              2·
              2 months ago

              I didn’t post the article he is referring to. He’s saying that to sow doubt. But you will see, I had nothing do with posting that article, nor did I write it.

              Some guy named Allah posted that article. Don’t know him, never heard of him, other than he posted that article.

              No clue why someone would lie and imply that I had anything to do with it, other than he is just annoyed that I’m not the only one who is not voting for Harris or Trump.

              • TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ
                1·
                2 months ago

                I just thought the part where you said “I like Israel” was yucky, given what makes the most sense to infer from that, within the context that you said it.

                Though maybe all that can really be inferred from that in good faith is that you just wanted to annoy a stranger on the internet, which is admirable

                • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  just thought the part where you said “I like Israel” was yucky, given what makes the most sense to infer from that, within the context that you said it.

                  I do like Israel (I’ve traveled there because my gf is Jewish) but I do not and never have supported genocide. It’s more like “condemning the policies, not hating everyone there” sorta thing. And it is a beautiful place.

          • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
            2·
            2 months ago

            and OP is 100% cool with Israel’s genocide.

            I didn’t post the article you are referring to. I didn’t write it. Nor did I produce it. I didn’t have anything to do with it.

            And I never ever EVER said I was cool with Israel’s genocide. Nice try.

            I know you are upset that I am not the only person who isn’t voting for Trump or Harris. But come on man, try harder. lmao

            • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              2 months ago

              The article posted by the OP in that instance was a bullshit apologetic thinkpiece about how the people opposed to Israel’s genocide of Palestinians are just ignorant, which includes the re-framing of genocide into “self-defense”. You not only didn’t have a problem with that, but you essentially defended OP against someone who did - me. At no point did you condemn any of the morally bankrupt positions the article OP posted took, and then you went and said that you like Israel. Could just be that you said that just to antagonize me, and you don’t actually mean it. If that’s the case, then at the very best, you’re a disingenuous jackass who doesn’t take the genocide seriously. At worst, you’re a supporter of it.

              Which is it?

              • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
                2·
                2 months ago

                I didn’t defend OP at all. Go read the thread. I said telling someone to go fuck themselves wasn’t really going to change anything.

                Again, I didn’t post the article, nor do I know anything about it or the poster.

                And I stand by what I said: Telling someone to go fuck themselves isn’t very helpful.

                At no point did you condemn any of the morally bankrupt positions the article OP posted took, and then you went and said that you like Israel.

                It’s not my job to condemn, support, or even comment on an article someone else posts.

                Also, just to be clear, I do like Israel. My girlfriend is Jewish, and I’ve been there—it’s a beautiful place. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with their leaders or condone genocide.

                By implying–actually saying–that I support genocide is a gross distortion of the facts and you should feel icky about yourself. All of this over me suggesting to you that telling someone to go fuck themselves wasn’t helpful!?

                And notice, I didn’t delete your comments—I left them up. I believe in diversity of opinion in that community.

                There are going to be posts you don’t like, so accept it and move on. Or feel free to block the community or me. But don’t lie and say I’m cool with genocide.

                • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  It’s not my job to condemn, support, or even comment on every article someone else posts

                  No, it certainly isn’t. But the fact that you declined to respond to OP, and chose to respond to someone criticising OP instead is very telling about your priorities.

                  Also, just to be clear, I do like Israel. My girlfriend is Jewish, and I’ve been there—it’s a beautiful place. That doesn’t mean I have to agree with their leaders or condone genocide.

                  Ok, crazy hypothetical time here… let’s say that we were discussing some other famous genocide. You can pick any one you’d like. And let’s say that some piece of shit posted an article on the channel you moderate saying that “hey - actually it’s not a genocide, it’s just, like, pre-emptive self defence, guys”, and someone calls that person out. If someone responds to that by saying: “Hey, I like <name_of_country>”, would you take that to mean “I really like the rivers and hills, and I have a passing familiarity with the place”, or would you not take the dumbest possible interpretation, and instead treat it as if instead of being a complete nonsequitor, it was in the context of the conversation to date? When you said: “I like Israel”, it was in the context of Israel committing a genocide. Who gives a shit if the place is pretty? The conversation had nothing to do with how scenic the country is, but rather how terrible their government is.

                  By implying–actually saying–that I support genocide is a gross distortion of the facts and you should feel icky about yourself.

                  You want me to feel icky about interpreting the things you said in the way that makes the most sense? Maybe in the future, if you don’t want to be misunderstood, be clear about what you’re talking about, and don’t try to weasel out of responsibility. Your entire whining response to me between that post and this boils down to you not taking responsibility for being obtuse.

                  I believe in diversity of opinion in that community.

                  Ah yes - classic liberal thinking: “People who deplore genocide and people who cheer it on should be equally heard!” Fuck you.

                  But don’t lie and say I support genocide.

                  Ok - condemn Israel, and condemn the poster who posted an apologetics piece about Israel’s genocide. I don’t give a shit how pretty you think the countryside of Israel is.

        • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.worldOP
          1·
          2 months ago

          No worries, brother. I totally support you voting for third party if that’s what your conscience requires. I’m voting third party this year, and I’m totally proud of it. Ignore the haters, friend.

  • abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.usEnglish
    1·
    2 months ago

    I think this is an important topic. It’s reasonable to ask, if Stein is doing so much better than Harris among some groups, then what’s the reason for this? What can Harris learn and adjust in her campaign to win over those folks and get those votes?

    It’s interesting to note that this isn’t universal - even though Stein has a lead in some states among these voters, they tie nationally and Harris has a lead in a few other important states (e.g. Georgia). I wonder what accounts for the difference?