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      I’m at a point where I think he’s more useful alive than dead. I feel like he’s ALREADY going to lose 2024. I’m a little baffled that it’s even a close race at all, but I’m still confident that between the debate, and the Taylor Swift endorsement he’s dug his own grave. And with that, it means he lost 2020 election, and the 2024 election. Would the GOP really endorse a 2X loser in 2028?

      I think him being alive forces them to support their own self made loser. And now even fox news is calling him a loser.

      He likes to say things like “they’re laughing at us!”

      No. They’re laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country. Not the democrats. Not anybody else but you. You are a loser, soon to be a two time loser, with two impeachments and 34 convictions. Nobody in American history loses bigger than you donald trump.

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        If he’s alive they will endorse him. There’s someone pulling the strings in the Republican party, I’d guess Putin. Republicans used to be the regular kind of horrible, now they’re just repugnant and evil. Trump is the perfect figurehead.

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          And he keeps losing. That’s my point. If he were dead, they might find someone who would/could actually win. Because let’s face it, Harris isn’t exactly everybodies first choice. She was kind of the only thing left once it became blatantly clear that Biden wasn’t going to be the 2024 nominee.

          So, if trump is alive, trump runs, democrats win. That makes trump more useful alive than dead.

          But I don’t think putin/GOP would be stupid enough to run him a 4th time.

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              Dead or fully brain dead. So many Alzheimer’s symptoms and he’s about to turn 80. It goes fast once it starts (and it probably started 10 years ago).

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        No. They’re laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country.

        The country is also a laughing stock but yes Trump is a big part of it

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          Yeah, Trump has already been president once. There is no escaping being a laughing stock country after that one.

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        Alive he can go down in ignominy and we can move past him. Dead, he would be a martyr and would never leave America’s conscience.

        I was a toddler when Nixon went down, but I heard what my parents had to say and combined that with what I’ve learned of history. Nixon was very popular, but once he went down he was like Voldemort, the one who shall not be named.

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        Do you mean, “would they do something incredibly stupid because Donny insisted?” Yes, yes they would.

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      I’m just glad this fucker is old. Could you imagine if we had to put up with this shit for 20 more years?

      He’s done regardless after this run.

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        Hopefully. I said the same thing back in 2020, figured he’d be dead by now

        And hopefully this Vance guy doesn’t stick around, either, because he would be a pain in the ass for 20 years.

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    Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement, “There is no place in this country for political violence of any kind.”

    Unless it is against the people, minorities, poor countries, or whistleblowers.

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        Heck, in the US I’d almost say all politics is political violence. It seems that anytime you advocate for nonviolence here you’re called naive at best, murdered at worst. Plus, our whole society was built in blood.

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        Democrats: “We don’t count that as political violence, because political violence is between people, and we don’t count Gazans as people”

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        No, no, no, it only counts as violence when it’s punching up! Bombing children and beating the people who say you shouldn’t do that is a totally different thing!

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      But inciting violence politically is, judging by recent events, absolutely fine.

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        *As long as it’s Donald Trump inciting aforementioned violence

        *And as long as it’s violence on his former VP and the members of the Senate who will bend a knee to him no matter what

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    Two back to back like this? My tin foil hat money is that Loomer is angling to get Trump to divorce Melania then elope with her. Eric Jr knows that his dad will do it and is terrified of getting cut out of the will once Loomer gets her hooks in Trumps dementia riddled ass, so he’s hiring people to kill his dad before the inheritance can get fucked with. I can’t come up with any other reason we’ve had such poor assassination attempts so quickly like this. The bumbling foolishness has Jr fingerprints all over it.

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      Now that’s a conspiracy theory! Way better than the ludicrous-yet-unimaginative shit the MAGAs come up with.

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      it is unclear just how much trump is angry at ivanka and jared for allegedly narcing on them.

      But pretty sure even eric and don jr know they are getting dick all. He openly loathes them and it might be his only redeeming quality.

      Nah. It is just the nature of being the party of gun nuts while openly failing almost all of their purity tests. We actually saw similar (just to a much lesser degree) when trump said something like “I love vaccines” and was boo’d like crazy.

      He is a symptom of the rot. Not the source. And by and large he just tries to ride it as best he can.

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        I mean you’re right. It’s just my tin foil hat conspiracy, definitely not something I think is anywhere in the realm of actual possibility.

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      I refuse to believe a person who otherwise wouldn’t vote for Trump will vote for Trump because he was shot at.

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        I think it’s to rule the news cycle, like that conspiracy loony etc. Anything to make forget about the crazily bad debate he did.

        Not saying he invented this “heard gunshots” himself, but that is how it’s useful.

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        I think someone who has been on the verge of converting to Trumpism would vote for him because he was shot at, but nobody that disliked him is gonna start liking him more

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        I don’t think the campaigns are about converting people, but more about getting people to care about voting for their candidate. At this point there is just no way people still don’t prefer one candidate over the other

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    So fucking crazy that anyone will repeat something when the only source is “According to the Trump campaign”

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      Nah somebody nearby had a gun and the FBI I think shot at that guy. AFAIK nobody actually got shot and they arrested gun dude on the highway later.

      Edit - sorry for bad link, still don’t think i can do relative post links. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/27862700

      Secret service shot at guy, guy had scoped AK and a GoPro when they shot at him apparently. Now I’m wondering if there was a 4chan post recently.

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        A Secret Service agent spotted a rifle barrel sticking out of fence and “engaged” with the suspect, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said at a news conference late Sunday afternoon. The gunman was 300 to 500 yards away from Trump, a Secret Service official said. Law enforcement found an AK-47 style rifle, GoPro and backpacks where the suspect was positioned, Bradshaw said.

        https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-election-09-15-24/index.html

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          OK, seriously.

          AK47s and AR15s are not what you’re looking for here. A nice Sako or Weatherby in 6.5 Creedmoor or .300WSM is a much better choice. And make sure your optics are matching the quality of the gun; we’re looking for .5MOA or better.

          Get your shit together, guys.

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          Yes, I had already edited that information in and linked to a lemmy post that itself contained a link to the AP story before you responded. Thanks though I guess?

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      Have you met the dude? I’m not at all that the sexist, racist buffoon that repeated a dumb story about pets being eaten rather than asking a question is being shot at. He is a failure in every way.

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    I mean, if you have participated in the plane discourse, you’ve probably learned that Swifties stop at nothing.

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    Somewhere Howard Dean is wondering how the fuck he was too unhinged to be electable in the face of daily insanity from the orange.