“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
For those not fluent in Republican crazy-speak, Kelly’s meltdown was triggered by Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Kamala Harris the night before, barely one hour after Trump all but face-planted on the debate stage. Kelly was especially triggered by Swift highlighting her appreciation for vice presidential nominee Tim Walz’s support of LGBTQ+ rights.
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Other right-wing commentators, like Ben Shapiro, took another approach: making fun of Swifties. “Note: if you vote for a particular candidate because your favorite singer is doing so, please don’t vote. You are too stupid to vote,” wrote Shapiro on X. Meanwhile, Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet, threatened to impregnate her.
“I will impregnate her” -Elon Musk
“She will be raped by Venezuelans” -David Rubin
“Children’s Genitals!” -Megyn Kelly
Weird…
“F you, Taylor Swift!” shouted Megyn Kelly, “and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
Weird
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And the reason more than one woman has needed a hysterectomy after being denied a medically necessary abortion.
Imma need the stats on this so I can throw it in someone’s face later.
Why do you need stats? It’s not like they matter to Christians.
Yeah they traditionally just get the truthiness level by looking it up in their gut.
Yeah they traditionally just get the truthiness level by
looking it up in their gut.standing up and pulling it out of their buttI was making a reference to a classic Colbert Report meme
he’s just saying the quiet part out loud (your gut includes your colon)
In the U.S. it’s not necessarily a christian thing. But the ven diagram of people who circumcise their children in the U.S. and chrstians is very close to a circle.
But the ven diagram of people who circumcise their children in the U.S. and chrstians is very close to a circle.
Sorry, but that’s not even close. Male circumcision is very commonly practiced among the Jewish and Islamic faiths as well as American Christians, who I guess just can’t resist a fad.
According to current estimations, approximately 30% of all males across the world— representing a total of approximately 670 million men — are circumcised. Of this number, about 68% are of Islamic faith, less than 1% of Jewish faith, and 13% are non-Muslim, non-Jewish Americans.
Which is why I said it was very close, not “a damn near circle” like people normally say with that phrase.
You’re giving the world numbers. Olgratin was talking about the US. I don’t know the US numbers but they could very well be quite different.
God can we please leave this weird obsession with circumcision on reddit? You’re not wrong, it’s just such a weird thing to focus on all the goddamn time.
It’s a bodily autonomy issue that has justifiably left a lot of men feeling powerless and angry. People are gonna talk about it.
It’s a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme that just makes spaces like this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.
Like I said, you’re not wrong on the topic, it’s just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.
It’s a dick topic of extremely minimal consequence in the grand scheme
I disagree. I think this country has a problem with respecting bodily autonomy, and a large part of that is men trying to legislate women’s bodies. Showing these men that they have a horse in the bodily autonomy race so to speak is a good thing. Maybe it’s only a minimal effect, but it’s a potential pathway out of harmful beliefs.
this looks like a bunch of dick-obsessed weirdos complaining because their dicks are too small.
it’s just being so focused on the topic in the first place is fucking weird.
I’ve been on lemmy for about a year now. And this one off handed thread is the only place I’ve seen this topic discussed, in the entirety of this last year. I think you are vastly overstating the frequency to which this is discussed.
To the first point, I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.
To the second point, it has come up a few times, but yes, the reason I said “leave this on reddit” was preemptive, before the problem migrates here from reddit where the topic is rampant is insanely zealous most often.
I’d argue that men centering themselves in the discussion which largely centers around attempts to remove bodily autonomy from women only hurts, not helps the cause.
I think we’d have to take a poll from the general population and compare it with a poll from an anti-circumcision group and compare it to be sure.
Regardless, I said it was a pathway, not a guarantee.
Does talking about dicks make you uncomfortable?
Not in the slightest. I’ll happily talk dicks with you all day; I’m extremely sexually liberal.
But talking about dicks isn’t the same as listening to a bunch of chud weirdos whining and crying about the world’s least consequential issue that’s they’re only mad about because deep down they ignorantly think their tiny dicks would be bigger if they hadn’t had their foreskins stolen.
Again, it’s just a weird fucking thing to focus on. Bring it up when the topic comes up, of course, but to fucking insert it in conversations as if it’s relevant, as was done in this post, will always be weird.
But hey, if you wanna talk about dicks for fun, I’m game. Mine curves slightly to the left, how about you?
Some of us think consent is not a topic of “extremely minimal consequence”.
The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies. I’m convinced our fall to fascism is caused by stupidity as much as it is hatred.
“Doctors are cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink!”
“They’re performing abortions after birth!”
“Haitians are eating all the cats and dogs!”
“They’re putting litter boxes in the school bathrooms!”
There’s really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.
Hatred is stupidity. Always has been.
Hatred is also taught.
Its sad that kids are in MAGA as well due to this.
Never underestimate how much destruction stupid people with power can cause.
This is why evil rarely succeeds in the long-term: when you have that many self-absorbed fucks attempt to work together, it rarely yields anything useful.
yeah, but it takes a fraction of the time to destroy than to build. They don’t need long-term, they can wreak havoc in one term
Good point 🍻
The current Republican platform is largely based on stupid easily disproven lies.
It’s worth mentioning that this strategy is straight out of the trolling playbook. The overall idea is to get everyone to waste their time arguing nonsense, making it impossible to discuss anything of merit. While the following article applies to internet forums, it’s not hard to see how any social media, TV, or radio, can spill over into our day-to-day discourse and have the same effect: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7573649/
In this case, the topic at hand meets multiple criteria for deliberate trolling. IMO, there’s little room for doubt that we’re being led by the nose and baited to waste valuable pre-election time:
- Digression - Luring others into off-topic discussions by spamming, partaking in cascades or introducing tangential topics (e.g., as in [16]).
- (Hypo)criticism - Excessive criticism of others, e.g. on their punctuation while possibly committing the same errors oneself.
- Antipathy - Creation of a sensitive or antagonistic context through purposeful provocation, in order to manipulate others to produce emotional responses.
- Endangering - Giving out poor advice under an innocent guise, and others are compelled to respond in order to protect others.
- Shocking - Posting about taboos or sensitive subjects, such as religion, death or human rights.
- Aggression - Deliberate and open aggressing of others into retaliating (e.g., by name-calling or foul language).
I would love to see more of the Democrats platform displayed, argued, justified and rationalized, but there’s literally no reason to talk about any of that when the other side has less discussion than a headless chicken.
I hope the right can someday see how bad they are for policy in general.
The litter box thing annoys me so much. Like, do you have any idea how quickly that shit would fucking go viral if it were true? Like, every damn kid would post about it online. It’s so fucking stupid!
do you have any idea how quickly that shit would fucking go viral if it were true
But it was true! Just not in the way that was claimed: They had these litterboxes in case they had to barricade in the classroom for extended periods of time due to a school-shooter that the police didn’t bother to stop quickly…
So yes, it really is a fucked up story, just in a very different way from what republicans claimed.
There’s really only two kinds of Republican: The evil ones who spread these lies intentionally, and the stupid ones who believe this dumb shit.
Nonense! There’s a third kind who is both stupid and evil. They may even be the majority.
Megyn? How is that supposed to be pronounced?
Actually, this name traces all the way back to the first cavewoman gynecologist. At the time, they named themselves based on their professions. Megyn is short for “me gynecologist”.
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Underrated comment.
Throw me a bone. I don’t get it.
It’s a reference to Trump insulting Harris by refusing to say “Kamala” correctly.
Weirdo Republican Talking Head No. 3464592
Remember when NBC hired Kelly in 2017, she gave Putin a platform to spread his propaganda, she got demoted, and then eventually fired for racism? Who could have guessed that she was just another maga conspiracy nut?
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Wow, I didn’t know Megyn Kelly was such a staunch circumcision opponent
Mud flaps down to her knees.
Imagine living in the US 💀
Ikr, im desperately trying to leave
Don’t go to Australia…I visited US a week ago and was surprised by how nice everyone was in Denver compared to here.
I’ve heard this phenomenon. That us Aussies go over there, especially to the south and are shocked at how cheerful ppl are with their small chat and how you goings as compared to here where we’re less inclined to strike up a conversation with a random.
But then I’ve had American friends explain that it’s all surface. That smiling yank agrees with Trump or reports their neighbours to the HOA for having grass over a centimetre high, or wants to go back to the good old days when the blacks knew their place.
Half the country wants Trump back. Fuck that.
Good thing im not going there
I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.
There is a long list of places I would rather live. Mainly ones that offer Healthcare and vacation time.
One thing you have to realize is that a LOT of Americans HAVE very good health care and good vacation time. I do. I don’t have to worry about either of those things.
In fact, there’s a lot about the US healthcare system that is actually better than other countries. If I want (not need) an MRI, I can literally get one today.
Healthcare is more widely distributed in almost every other country, and I really really wish that we could get our shit together and separate healthcare from employment, I am voting, and donating, and I even went to a few protests about it.
I have vacation time. Many of my coworkers don’t even use up all their vacation time. They don’t want to, cause they have an unhealthy relationship with work, but it is available to them.
I live in a state that specifically passed laws (that I supported, and voted for) that specifically say we support gender affirming care and abortion rights, even for people traveling from states that don’t have those protections.
The US isn’t one place, every state has it’s own laws that protect people in different ways. Many of the cities also have their own protections as well.
I can move somewhere to get the exact same thing I have now, or I can stay here and keep pushing to help get EVERYONE else in this country the same quality of life that I have. And that’s what I’m going to do.
Found the person thinking like 5 weeks of holidays and access to MRI is some sort of flex outside of the US.
About that, how many weeks of holidays do you actually have, like how many did you take say 2023? Paid vacation ofc.
Dude, I’m ON YOUR SIDE. Don’t attack me because I’m trying to explain why we’re not burning down the capital building.
I WANT there to be big improvements, and yes, I just got back from a trip to Europe and actually sat down and talked to locals over there.
I personally have very good vacation time, comparable to Europe, that I use.
I personally have very good health care, probably better than many areas of Europe. I have used it. I understand the limitations of the various systems and for me, personally, it wouldn’t be an advantage to move to most other countries.
There are MANY MANY people in the US that are in my same situation. But I also believe that even one person that doesn’t have the same access that I do is one too many, and the US system isn’t built to support them.
Me moving to another country will NOT improve my situation, but it will hinder my ability to push for change for the other 300 million.
I’m not OP but I have FTO. Unlimited vacation time. And I’ll have taken about 8 weeks of vacation by end of this year. Living and working in the US currently.
“The United States, the 59th* most free country in the world” doesn’t really have a ring to it. FreedomHouse does a deep analysis every year. Finland, Sweden, and Norway are the places to be.
*USA is 17th if you want to account for ties.
Finland, Sweden, and Norway
Cold.
Warmer than Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Dakotas, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York & New England. Possibly some more inland states as well.
Have you ever been anywhere else?
Yes, I’ve traveled extensively around the world throughout my career and personal life.
Why do you want to stay? I live in CA, it’s great, but other places are great too.
I’m interested in knowing the other places you’ve lived and why they were inferior.
Probably the countries they themselves have ruined
Yeah, it’s great being on the out side looking in
If they didn’t want her to voice her opinion they shouldn’t have spent a week making fake ai images of her endorsing Trump. They forced her hand; she could either allow her likeness to be appropriated for a political cause she doesn’t agree with, or make her true opinion known.
Shes just an uppity women. She should do what I say. -Republicants.
Could just as easily have been a democrat trying to draw her endorsement. Its silly to point blame like that.
I love how you obviously have no idea what’s been going on the past week, but you still felt the need to try and defend Republican weirdos.
Not defending republicans. Why couldn’t some sneaky democrat realize they could bait her into it with AI art.
Trump didnt make the art. He is an idiot for sharing it though. Can’t be too hard to get him to retweet something stupid though.
Stop living in a fantasy.
Trump shared it…
But maybe he did it because democrats fooled him into doing it, right? Right?
After eating someone’s dog, the Haitians pressured Trump to post it because they’re criminals. Or something.
The point I’m making is the art could have come from anyone. Why not a troll or shitposters? 4chan has done stuff like this for literal decades.
Yes, technically it could have come from anyone.
So let’s give the wannabe fascist republicans the benefit of the doubt, because that has historically been a very double plus good idea to do for authoritarians, and only good things will come from doing so…I don’t think this makes trump look good either way, I’m not defending him.
Either he’s an idiot who got tricked into posting something he should have known not to, or he’s an idiot who has idiot friends who sent him something and he posted it.
I thought she was going to sue him for it.
But then you tweet dumb shit 4chan says. How does that make you look more like a stable adult?
Never said I was defending what trump did. Just said he could have been duped into it. I actually thought shed sue him over it but I guess the endorsement works.
This is such a hilarious conspiracy theory that person has.
Here is what happened: Leon put out an image generator that would create images of real people. Donald is desperate for attention. Donald wanted to fantasize what if A-list celebrities liked him, so he typed it in. He then shared it publicly.
You have a source that says Donald trump made the images with his own prompts? Why wouldnt he be sued for that. Reposting someone else’s images was already risky enough.
I’ll believe it though if you know where I can read about that.
Not a conspiracy theory by the way, was just saying ai art from the internet could come from anyone, and shitposters and trolls exist. Theres even a professional board for it called 4chan.
Donald is the shitposting troll that this AI art came from, though.
Did he prompt it himself or did someone send it to him?
And yet it wasn’t. But I get it, facts don’t matter to you.
I’m calling trump an easily manipulable idiot, not defending him.
Who did make the taylor swift art anyways?
I’m certain Dems did ask her for endorsement, there is no way they wouldn’t have, right? But they didn’t make weird AI images, did they? So it is wildly different and deserves blame and criticism, doesn’t it?
Donald is like the stereotypical pathetic incel stalker pasting his face over a boyfriend in a photo to add to a weird little shrine. Just really fucking weird and creepy.
So let’s say I made the AI images. And posted them on republican forums knowing they would eat them up. Keep sending them to bigger and bigger names, make a not farm to make the posts visible.
Finally I get the big cheetoh to repost it. Boom, I a democrat, have instigated Taylor Swift into endorsing the Democrats.
Do it, then, wreck their campaign by getting Donald to post more weird AI images that force other celebrities to endorse the Dems.
Just gotta find a weak spot in the pipeline of bullshit that goes to Trump.
I must admit that I don’t get, why it’s such a big deal, that Taylor Swift supports Harris. But seeing the meltdown of the right wing grifters does put a smile on my face.
She has 284 MILLION followers. And the Swifties are also like a cult. Granted a more sensible one. But people will support her through anything. And many of those supporters are gen z and just entered the voting pool. The GOP does not want a huge influx of voters.
I’ve seen some graphs / extrapolations where if young voters (18-24) voted at the same rate as older voters (55+), Harris would win by a pretty sizable margin.
That almost never happens, but Swift has a huge influence on young voter turnout.
I have a good friend that is a Swifty, they are basically another uber fandom with actual irl clout. Apparently she brought over a quarter million potential signups through this.
She used to be a Country Music darling, and a lot of right-wing Country people still feel like they own her like back when they had her as an underage sex symbol.
Her posting that link got something like 400k people to register to vote. That is not insignificant. I hate the news always discussing celebrity opinions on politics. However, this specific time, something happened that can actually have an impact. So we shall see.
Republicans: Cancel culture is ruining the country!
Also Republicans: You endorsed Harris? Kiss your Republican record sales goodbye!
The hypocrisy is a feature
No no no, you see, when the left does it, it’s cancel culture and literally communism. When the right does it, it’s voting with your dollar, literally capitalism. Not comparable at all!!
/s
Which is hilarious since the main source of income for musicians ever since streaming took off is live shows and merch… albums are a vehicle to drive attendance at concerts, for which Swift is pretty good at packing stadiums full of people. Even if she loses 30% of her listeners, she’ll still sell out concerts and total revenue would likely be about the same because those seats will be taken up by other fans who would have otherwise missed out on the sold-out show.
“and f all of the people who want to see these children have body parts chopped off.”
As someone living in a country whey we don’t chop off the foreskin of little children, whereas conservative Americans love that chopping procedure, I find this statement slightly amusing.
Not just little children, infants.
Babies. They mutilate the genitals of their babies because they believe their god desires it.
It’s called mental illness. These people aren’t simply “weird”. They’re insane, a danger to their children, their communities, and their country.
There’s some truth in this, but I think we should be mindful of nuance. Some parents do need to make decisions for medical reasons. Those reasons are often still exaggerated, and many parents aren’t making an informed decision. I’ve had friends that required the procedure after puberty, but I’m pretty sure they’ve said there was no way they could have known prior to puberty anyway. I don’t know anyone that needed it as a baby, but it can happen when obstructions develop in utero.
Circumcision as medical treatment is fine, as long as it’s legitimate; though I also have a strong suspicion that most medical circumcision — due to phimosis — is actually due to the sexual shame of religious “cultures”, and simply wouldn’t be necessary if parents actually washed their babies/infants penises properly (by pulling back the foreskin) and teaching them to do the same. Obviously the foreskin stiffens and fuses shut when it’s not stretched for years — no different to any other body part. I remember it took weeks to masturbate because I rarely pulled the skin back, and trying to do so took time to stretch it out. I could have easily ended up with phimosis in slightly different circumstances… I could barely touch my toes 3 months ago; now, after stretching a few times a week, I can stand on my palms.
It’s not like a significant number of other ape species experience this disorder. If the foreskin wasn’t beneficial then we wouldn’t have it. We don’t cut our ears off because it’s easier to clean the area without them, either.
They mutilate the genitals of their babies because John Harvey Kellogg thought it would prevent masturbation
But that’s how you show God that your baby deserves to be in Heaven!!!
🌭🪓✝️
I didn’t know we were doing genital checks at the Pearly Gates, God is a weirdo.
Also, especially since your body remains on earth. Does your soul have genitalia?
No, but your souls takes that piece of soul-foreskin with it and drops it off in a little turn style like a ticket.
That’s how god gets it’s treats, I read that in the Bible.
You get the perfect sized everything in heaven.
What did you think the “pearly” in Pearly Gates was about?
They have a covenant with their diety about slicing up little baby penises and this is the shit they say. Incredible.
Remember, God hates the tips
It’s funny how Taylor Swift mattered when Trump faked her endorsement.
Elmo basically threatened to rape her… Shitbag.
If only you were exaggerating… but sadly not.
This Elmo?!Elmo has gone dark…
The party of rapists, child molesters and murderers is mad at Taylor Swift. She must’ve done something right. 🤔
On the flip side, imagine voting for someone because Ben Shapiro is doing so.
Imagine doing or believing anything because of anything that guy said or did. I’m not even sure how anyone can stand listening to him.
I’m often astonished by just how odious and unlikable conservative commentators are and wonder how anyone can seriously watch the people on Fox and people like Trump, Charlie Kirk or Dan Bongino and think “yeah! I like and trust this person!”
“On the one hand this person is utterly detestable, but on the other hand they are reinforcing what I already decided to believe. Hmm…”
The argument that “you shouldn’t vote for someone just because your favorite celebrity endorses them” seemed like a much more credible argument before the 2016 election when the winning candidate essentially won by literally being a celebrity.
Prior to 2016, Trump was probably best known for being the host of a reality TV show, and being a “businessman”. Taylor Swift is definitely better known, and you could also make a solid argument that she is a better “businessman” as well.
What about Ronald Reagan?
The actor?!
Aww man, I love it when you do Doc Brown.
Yeah, he sucked.
Actually that was Nancy, not Ronald.
They both suck IMO. But yeah, toward the end it was his handlers making the decisions.
I was trying weakly to reference Nancy’s rumored penchant for giving head to anyone who asked, but yes - both were warm garbage.
OMG seriously, or was the hyperbole‽ I laugh at imagining Nancy blowing a bunch of people in an attempt to peddle influence.
Iran hostage crisis? Solved with an elderly gumjob.
Oh no, it’s serious. Nancy was the BJ Queen of Hollywood. Look it up.
Reagan was at least governor of California prior to running for president.
Businesswoman / person
If you note, I put “businessman” in quotes for both of them because it isn’t the correct term for either of them. It isn’t the correct term for Taylor because it is the wrong pronoun, and it isn’t the correct term for Trump because he seems incapable of running a successful business. It was an intentional construct for ironic parallelism, not an oversight.
… Ben Shapiro accusing other people of not being smart enough to vote…
He should practice what he preaches and not vote, himself.
He should vote, because everyone should vote.
Fuck Ben Shapiro, he’s some combination of idiot and willing stooge, but voting only works when everyone gets to vote. Unlike these right-wing fuckwits, I’m not willing to disenfranchise voters just because I perceive them as being less intelligent than me.
EDIT: I am shocked that supporting a fair and equal democracy seems to be at least sort of controversial around here. If you genuinely believe a given category of people should be disallowed from voting, please reconsider your values.
Lol you vote for more dog food available, they vote people to die. Same same.
This is not a “both sides are the same” argument. Only that if you start to discuss who should and should not be allowed to vote, you are no longer creating a democracy. That is a dictatorship with extra steps.
A cunt that is tolerant of Nazis doesn’t deserve respect or a vote homie that’s reality.
*food dog, duh
Yes, because telling someone to practice what they preach is disenfranchising them.
C’mon, now.
Voting is his right, it his obligation. If he wanted to show he’s not a total fucking liar and hypocrite…. He should chose to not vote because he’s definitely stupider than the vast majority of swifties.
To be fair, most rocks have enough intelligence to be smarter than him… and they’re inanimate.
Never forget his hypothetical about selling your underwater home. Dude has the intelligence of the fish he thinks would buy it.
No, but telling someone they shouldn’t be allowed to vote is saying you believe they should be disenfranchised.
Again.
You’re saying things I did not say.
At no point did I suggest he should he not be allowed to vote.
I’m saying if he truly believes that stupid people should not vote…. then he should not vote himself.
This is substantially different that disallowing him to vote.
Tl/dr? I’m just calling him stupid.
Shapiro is not an idiot, he’s arrogant. He believes that when the fascists and alt-right freaks come for every other racial, sexual and religious minority, including his own, they will spare him because he was on their side and he is special
I can’t believe the leopard is eating MY face.
- Ben Shapiro
Trump threatened her for her endorsement. Anyone who thinks he has any redeeming qualities is beyond redemption.
Once again, we see what the debate between Harris and Trump illustrated very clearly: The GOP in its current state is not pursuing any program whatsoever, but merely builds up imaginary enemy stereotypes that they blame for all their problems - without any even halfway factual reasons. Democratic processes are impossible with this tedious kindergarten approach because they are based on factual arguments, cooperation and the willingness to find common ground. I sincerely hope that there are some rational thinking conservatives left who will refuse to vote for this hateful orange moron and his ridiculous henchmen.
Yeah, it’s almost as if all their talking points and strategies are fed to them by a hostile foreign power that wants to destabilize its enemy. Weird.
Just a friendly reminder since it can’t be said enough, and some people are unaware:
“The Department of Justice also indicted two employees of RT, a Russian state broadcaster, saying that they funneled $10 million to a U.S. media company that hired prominent right-wing influencers here in the U.S.”
I hate that it’ll be taboo to call them stupid in ten years. "Do you remember how stupid you were acting? What’s to make me believe you aren’t still that stupid"will be frowned upon. But seriously they’re behaving, and voting, that fucking stupidly.
