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She set a tone at the very start when she walked right into his space to shake his hand and made him almost pull back into himself in response. She was in charge and never stopped being in charge.
Harris also managed what neither Joe Biden nor Hillary Clinton nor any of the 2016 Republicans managed to do which is successfully bait Donald Trump and get under his skin. Within a few minutes Trump was visibly angry and not in a way that empowered him but in a way that made him lose focus, go down rabbit holes and generally go off onto damaging tangents. Spittle anger, not righteous anger, shall we say.
I’m still stuck on this thing about how undocumented immigrants are coming to America to eat dogs and cats, but in the process are being forcibly sent to American Prisons which are actually a front for experimental sex changing drugs creating a squad of latinas-who-used-to-be-latinos with the goal of sending them to dominate women’s sports, and the existence of transpeople like myself are an elaborate hoax to manufacture consent for this program.
Do I understand that correctly, that is actually what Donald Trump unironically believes?
Don’t forget that the immigrants are coming from insane asylums, and are not legal immigrants seeking asylum.
By the millions! Millions i tell you
If the last person who talked to him was Stephen Miller, it probably is. To paraphrase George Burns, putting an idea into his head is like putting a basketball into a thimble.
putting an idea into his head is like putting a basketball into a thimble.
I’m so going to steal this expression!
Man, I’d hate to sneak into the US just to chill and chow down on some cats, just to end up winning gold medals in woman’s sports
Would be super annoyed
He doesn’t believe anything he says. He doesn’t even hear himself. He’s like a poorly trained LLM at this point. It’s become so over tuned it’s only spews nonsense with conviction
He doesn’t believe anything he says.
Trump has often bragged about how good he is at deceiving people. Anyone who thinks Traitorapist Trump believes his own shit has been Trumped.
Can I come to your prison? I would like to be a latina please 🥺💃🏽
You forgot the part about how the trans surgeries are actually medical experiments to create an alien-human hybrid to prepare the Earth for the upcoming alien invasion.
Did he say that? I am going to have to watch this now. That’s fucking crazy
No, I stole it from the X Files.
But the notion that it sounds plausible compared to something Trump would say is really telling, isn’t it?
Every accusation a confession.
All Trump proved is that he is the social media-addicted racist uncle everyone has in their family. That is what he demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt.
“I saw it on television”
He can’t hold a thought that coplicated in his head.
I’m not American, but that was fun to watch. I had my popcorn and everything. It felt like I’m watching Cartman debate Wendy or something.
It was easy for you to enjoy because you were not worried every second that if it went poorly, you were about to live in an authoritarian state.
EDIT : poor phrasing that changed the meaning.
I did not worry every second that I allegedly am about to to live in an authoritarian state.
What are you talking about?
See my corrected post.
Maybe they meant you don’t have to worry about living in authoritarian state if he wins.
Correct. I really need that up and I’ve corrected it.
Lmao. Idk if id compare Kamala to Wendy but well done sir.
He says he won and his supporters believe it. That’s all they need. Doesn’t matter if he was dominated or not.
Trump and his followers are truth proclaimers, not truth seekers. They believe truth is dictated by consensus, volume, devotion, etc because that’s what their religion and their narcissistic delusions teach them. Everyone else knows that truth is something to be analyzed and determined, not proclaimed.
So in general, yeah it’s a waste of time paying attention to what their reaction is. They’re a predictable bunch.
They believe truth is dictated by consensus, volume, devotion, etc because that’s what their religion and their narcissistic delusions teach them. Everyone else knows that truth is something to be analyzed and determined, not proclaimed.
It’s the same old shit the Nazis did.
I don’t think you can use a racist cult as a measuring stick. Of course it doesn’t matter to them, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter at all.
He didn’t say it didn’t matter, he said it’s a waste of time worrying about their reactions. Which in a sense, is true, considering how predictable those reasons always are.
But it also reassures anyone hesitant about her ability to hold her own as a leader. Her real job was not coming off as a political hack from a desperate party. And instead she played him like a concert fucking pianist.
Just like for almost 4 years the American ppl have been played like “a concert fucking pianist”?
See ya at the pump. Or the grocery store. Or living behind a 7 Eleven because housing prices are out of control.
Look at the deeds, not the words. She is part of the current administration and cannot run from her track record.
This isn’t accurate. They may not change their vote, but this hurt them. This further proved that Trump is demented, bumbling, and easy to manipulate.
Keep in mind, Blue MAGA here tried to claim Biden won his debate.
It’s obligatory for those on a team to claim they win. If you were voting for Harris before the debate, you are still voting for Harris after the debate. If you were voting for Trump, there is almost no chance that changed based on this debate.
If you are on the right and not voting for Trump this election, you probably aren’t voting. Cheney isn’t bringing votes to the Democrats.
The votes left to get (amongst registered) are leftists who are still struggling to vote for a candidate who supports a genocide. You won’t get them abusing them with the idea that they need to sacrifice their morals for a candidate. Only the candidate can get those voters, and they can only do so with a policy shift. It’s probably about 2.5 to 5 percent of registered Democrats s in this bucket. More than enough to make or break the Harris candidacy.
https://www.mapresearch.org/democracy-maps/voter_registration_deadlines
The only other option for more votes is to create more registered voters (link above). So we’re very rapidly coming up to the point where neither the Harris or Trump campaign can j crease their vote share in the critical states that are going to decide this election.
Using the relatively well established rule of about 2 weeks for information to filter through the news and to emerge in polling, and the consideration that the voter registration deadline is coming up, that we should expect a policy shift from Harris around October 12th -16th. This is simply because there really aren’t any more votes for the campaign to get once the registration deadlines begin to pass.
I’ve never heard anyone claiming that Biden won his debate. I’ve heard some say it was survivable, which it was not. Having watched both debates, I think it’s pretty safe to say that Biden lost his and Harris won hers. Both with rather big margins.
I mean, their claims were happening here, live. See the past mega threads. There really is no reason to cite ignorance for something so easily verifiable.
The votes left to get (amongst registered) are leftists who are still struggling to vote for a candidate who supports a genocide.
I can’t tell if you’re being genuine and clueless or malicious.
Let’s assume you’re the former first. WaPo did a pretty cool piece with undecided swing voters during the debate. It resulted in a small but significant shift left. You can check it out here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/interactive/2024/presidential-debate-voter-poll/
Unfortunately, I’m going to assume the latter. To quote Kamala, “This is the same tired old playbook” the Russian troll farms trotted out when Biden was in the race. I’m not sure if you’re one of those that fell for it or if you’re a troll yourself, but it’s not working anymore. If Trump were in office, he’d gleefully tell Netanyahu to bomb Palestine out of existence. If this is going to be a talking point, at least discuss it in good faith.
In a triage situation, you focus on those who are most likely to survive given the resources available. You can’t fix extremists so focus on the ones you can save instead.
His face when she told him people left his rallies early was fucking priceless.
And yet, none of it will matter because anyone who had even been considering voting for the racist cheeto is infinitely entrenched and bound by their own logic.
Indeed, and note that Harris didn’t even attempt to go after his voters. The target is the middle and the squishy left, a reminder of what the stakes are in this election. She made it clear he was a petulant child, only caring about himself and the things important to him, and invited voters who want someone who doesn’t just care about themselves to come out and vote for her.
Hopefully it’s effective, because Trump has Project 2025 ready to go, despite his lies saying he knows nothing about it.
You don’t know that for sure, I bet he’s paid good money to be dominated even harder
I doubt it. He doesn’t pay the contractors he hires
He’s promised to pay good money to get pissed on!
Being dominated in a consensual way, takes a sort of self awareness and acceptance of your own weaknesses.
Trump lacks any self awareness, and has likely never been part of consensual domination.
Maybe some investigative journalist should check with Stormy Daniels?
You know she watched the debate. And got more pleasure from that than anything he ever did, second only to getting a hush money check from him.
I just get stuck on the interview I saw with her where she said she only accepted the payment so that there would be a paper trail that would make it harder to have her killed. She was legitimately afraid that she was going to get murdered on his orders if she didn’t have some kind of collateral or receipts.
OMG well that kills my dumb little joke then. I’m not deleting it, so hopefully other people who didn’t know about this will find your reply.
I’m not sure if it’s more awful because it’s innately horrible or because it’s that fn believable.
I couldn’t get myself to watch it, so it actually went well for Harris?
She seemed nervous with the first one or two questions, but the longer it went on the stronger she looked. Classy and professional was one way I heard her described. He was his usual self. Some memorable lines:
Don: “they’re eating pets” … “I have the concept of a plan…” Kam: “…he (Putin) would eat you for lunch…”
The way she laughed at the remark about eating cats and dogs, was exactly my reaction. Glorious!
“SHE WANTS TO GIVE TRANSEXUAL OPERATIONS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS! IN PRISON!!!”
He all but broke down crying at points. I gotta get a soundboard clip of “it’s DYING David!” after like the fourth time he diverted and lied about immigration.
In the way Biden shit the bed she didn’t, which is to say Trump was and remains his own liability.
She just needed to respond to his bullshit like a sane human, and she did. She was nervous and you could see her reverting to “this is what I practiced” words a few times but frankly she only needed to not shit her adult diaper to win.
She did sieze a few moments to really push the dagger in, she did what Biden ought to have been able to do. Did she distinguish herself? Nope. Not to me EXCEPT relative to how the political discourse has been the last few years.
She’s still the same candidate I chose Bernie over.
BUT juxtaposed to Biden and Trump she’s a fresh of breath air.
Yes. She handled him calmly, rationally, got in a few good shots, and kept him on defense. I don’t think there was one stumble, or moment she appeared weak against his bullying. She was actually the one playing him for once, and he shit the bed.
She slammed it. Go find it on YouTube, it’s worth watching.
Did you know Venezuelan gangs are kidnapping and eating your dogs and cats?
Yeah the TV said so
I love that he said this, the guy who thinks the media are all liars. What a buffoon.
Somehow that’s more unhinged than “they’re get sex changes while in prison”
At least he now knows which one he wants to go to and has said it out loud.
Not really sure how unhinged this claim is. There are, of course, TS in prisons (and jails) in the U.S. They received special medical treatment and hormones paid for with public funds. They are permitted special privileges that other inmates are not permitted. I know, having seen and experienced it.
Did you see prisoners getting bottom surgeries? If you have a prescription the prisons are obligated to give you your meds but that isn’t what Trump was saying, let’s not make excuses for the guy.
Is that why Trump suggests the NY Economic Club should hold their next meeting in Venezuela?
“Next year, I’m going to suggest that the Economic Club hold its meeting in Caracas because we’ll be safer than we are in our country if they win. We’ll be far safer.”
https://singjupost.com/full-transcript-trump-speaks-at-the-economic-club-of-new-york
That was like watching a boxing match were the loser gets mad and picks a fight with the reff and gers his ass kicked by them too.
That whole debate felt like an SNL skit. Had to put down my knitting to pick up my jaw off the floor. Absolutely insane. Harris did great.
We had a few slack jaw and gasp moments.
Idk, I disagree:
Trump got trumped.
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Kamala Harris dominated the debate despite the fact that she was given about 5 minutes less time to speak!
It’s disappointing to see how the media invariably accommodates Trump. Contrary to the rules of the debate, when Trump continued talking after his time was up or demanded to respond to a point Harris made, they often let him by not muting his microphone. This added up to right around 5 minutes of extra speaking time on prime time television for him to spew his lies. The one time Harris tried the same thing she was shut down by the moderators. If there is any silver lining here it’s that Trump probably made his debate performance worse by talking more!
I was glad to see some push back and fact checking by the moderators in regards to Trump’s most egregious lies. Today MAGA is complaining that the debate was rigged and the moderators were against Trump due to the fact checks while they should be thanking ABC for the special treatment that allowed Trump extra air time.
Go Harris/Walz!
CNN should take some notes. That’s what moderators are supposed to do.
Nah they still are teeball amateurs compared to Kyle Clark.
On the other hand, she actually originally requested his mic not be muted, probably because she knew he’d hang himself.
The one time Harris tried the same thing she was shut down by the moderators.
And she didn’t even put up with that. She just waited until her next turn, went back, said her part, and then answered the new question. Trump was basically incoherent by comparison
And she only did it to counter a bold face lie he said about herself.
Not 10 minutes before she stated that she did not ban fracking, will not ban fracking and made the tie breaking vote in favor of fracking.
But he still says “shes going to ban fracking if elected” like dude WTH. Are you paying attention?And I, for one, would love it if she actually banned fracking. But that’s not an argument that Trump World can make.
What is fracking?.
Fracking — shorthand for hydraulic fracturing — is the process of extracting gas or oil deep underground using a high-pressure mixture of water, sand and chemicals to break up rock.Its definetly a controversial subject.
I think it’s a hot issue for many working class citizens due to the results of creating more American jobs and lowering gas prices.
On the other side of the issue is climate risks and feeding our reliance on fossil fuels.
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Yeah keep downvoting me without adding to the conversation. I haven’t said I was one way or the other. Just providing an article for education on the subject and speculating on why people are on both sides.To state my opinion. I’m against fracking. Against ICE vehicle subsidies (fuck these huge pick up trucks). Also for nuclear power.
It’s also poisoning our water
On one side! The world dying! On the other, a couple people’s jobs that can be replaced by green sector jobs!
What a massively hard decision.
We all know in a capitalist society there are people who only see short term. They care about themselves and not the future.
That means billionaires that only care about making the line go up. Increasing their own wealth. Hoarding it like greedy little lepricons.
That means working class that wants cheap gas and more jobs.
All at the cost of the planet and the future of all life on the planet.
No. He is in Bizarro World 24/7 and will not have anyone, let alone a woman, tell him otherwise.
It was very disappointing, even though it was pretty much as expected. They even let Trump talk over and interrupt the moderators!
