• DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    It’s fascinating how the west will claim that the DPRK worships this guy and his every action and bowel movement is mentioned on the evening news over there, but like, the only place actually obsessing over what his personal habits are is the west.

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                The DPRK has only existed as a political entity for 75 years. Kim Il-sung is their founding father. He died in 1994.

                Do you expect them to not venerate him to some extent? The WPK ejected the Japanese and Amerikan imperialists who raped and murdered millions of Koreans – who stripped them of their national and cultural heritage, their language, their names, their fucking humanity. The WPK brought that all back. Kim Il-sung was chairman and president. The last president before the position was abolished, hence the title “Eternal President”.

                Kim Jong-il was his son and helped manage to maintain Korean sovereignty in the face of the collapse of most of the socialist world, in the face of the west turning its guns towards the now destabilized smaller socialist nations. He died in 2011. He was general secretary of the WPK.

                If Abraham Lincoln died 12 years ago, how do you think Amerikans would treat his memory? If George Washington died 30 years ago…

                I do not know why I waste my time. Maybe for those reading this actually interested in learning, for those reading this that are not so horribly racist as to utterly dehumanize an entire people. Your complete ignorance of the ways Amerikan civil religion permeates this nation is very telling, as is your abstraction between Amerikan and Other civil religions.

                I live on Washington street. It borders Monroe street and Jefferson street. All literal slaveowners. Yet you take umbrage with a nation’s reverence for the man who helped lead his people in liberating themselves from people with mindsets just like yours… in living fucking memory! Those poor, brainwashed Koreans. They just need to be Westernized/Japanized/liberalized/vaporized/insert-whatever-racist-bullshit-you-believe-here, right? Not like they’re human beings with the agency to make their own fucking choices. Fuck you.

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                  Americans are so used to their leaders being dogshit useless racists that they literally can’t fathom that another nation’s leaders actually earned the admiration they get.

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    It seems silly, but it could indicate that he is either taking care of himself now, even he can’t get enough food, or he is sick. All of this could have implications for the Kim regime and their relationships with the external world.

    Best case scenario is a slow and steady retreat from dictatorship into a more democratic governance model. I don’t think that’ll happen, but I don’t feel too chipper about a relatively feeble and economically and politically unstable country purchasing any nuclear arms at all.

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      Your usage of “dictatorship” to describe the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea along with the rest of your statement shows your ignorance about the entire country.

      I don’t feel too chipper about a relatively feeble and economically and politically unstable country purchasing any nuclear arms at all.

      So then the US should get rid of their nukes, correct?

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        So I think I was pretty tired when I wrote that. But in case I wasn’t clear, I meant that I don’t like the thought of countries, such as North Korea, who are only relatively stable, in possession of nuclear arms.

        I really was not talking about the United States. We have our own issues, but I don’t think we’re about to start any nuclear wars on a whim. Yes our politics are pretty screwed up at the moment, but I don’t see it as likely that any yahoos, like that bodily fluids air force guy in Dr. Strangelove, can just start a nuclear exchange.

        No, I don’t think the US is going to give up it’s nukes anytime soon, there’s lots of politics in play, and half the point of NATO is that it’s under the protection of the US nuclear umbrella.

        By dictatorship I mean a government with extreme accumulation of government, and usually military, power in less than a handful of individuals with ineffective or even lack of democratic elections.

        Edit: so what’s up with all the N. Korean defenders here???

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          By dictatorship I mean a government with extreme accumulation of government, and usually military, power in less than a handful of individuals with ineffective or even lack of democratic elections.

          In order to be able to tell if a government is a dictatorship or a democracy, one has to know how said government works first. Make sense, right?

          So, in order to make sure you’re not talking out of your ass here, I have to ask you the question: What do you know about the inner workings of the government of the DPRK? What are the component parts of the government, their function and how are their members choosen? How many and what parties are there and how do they take part in politics? What position does Kim Jong Un occupy? Do you know any other polititians beside him? Is there any elections?

          If you can’t answer any of these questions, on what basis exactly are you claming that the DPRK is a dictatorship?

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              Strange that this ostensibly weak and unstable nation has such a strong intelligence agency so as to be able to pay us to defend them online.

              FWIW I’m a broke statesian. Here’s the thing as well, you parrot propaganda and then disengage when it is examined critically and thoroughly, something many of us have devoted literal days of our lives doing.

              I am more aware of the inner workings of the DPRK state than any bourgeois “journalist”. Many of us are. If you’d like to learn with us, I’d suggest not implicitly accusing us of being bots or paid actors.

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                  A paragraph or two… I mean, I can give you a couple of examples I suppose.

                  Kim Il-sung is called the “Eternal President” not because of some esoteric, Oriental mysticism that posits that he is still president of the DPRK, but because he was the first and last president of the DPRK. He is the eternal president quite literally, and it’s fucking weird how much western media obsesses over this as if northern Koreans believed his spirit still ruled over them or something.

                  The DPRK never “abandoned” Marxism-Leninism or socialism in favor of “Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism” or Juche. The WPK are scientific socialists, and honest science necessitates changes in understanding and practice. Juche is not an economic system, Juche is a sociopolitical ideal intended to rectify the contradictions between the self and the other, between the individual and the community, between the proletarian, the professional and the intellectual. Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism could be read more closely as Socialism with Korean Characteristics, if one would want to. It is not deviation or abandonment.

                  “Supreme Leader” is a term often weaponized to evoke that same sense of Oriental mysticism and brainwashing.

                  The DPRK’s parliament is called the Supreme People’s Assembly. The WPK leads the SPA. What do you think the chairman of the WPK (a position which Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il, and Kim Jong-un were all elected to) would be called?

                  I am unsure what else to say. DPRK is great on disability rights. A majority of the country has a mobile phone. There are video games in hospitals. People eat groceries. Kids go to school. The beaches look wonderful. Pyongyang has a fantastic public tram service.

                  Any time a news outlet claims DPRKorea said something negative about other “races” (notably in that shitpile “The Cleanest Race”) they are deliberately mistranslating the word “nation” or “nationality” in order to construct the narrative they desire. Any specific questions?