In a characteristically rambling post on Truth Social, Mr Trump said that the indictment ‘hoax’ was the fault of misfits – and mutants

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      Considering the traditional stories and plot points central to the X-Men comic/series this is kinda ironic

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        As I recall, “Mutant, and proud” was a repeated line in the more recent movies used as a rallying cry.

        Using the term as an insult is probably counterproductive given the popular media association of stories of people being oppressed for their differences.

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        IIRC, the X-Men was originally an allegory for the Civil Rights movement - complete with some “mutants” wanting to work within the system to improve things and others wanting to tear the entire system down.

        Of course, all persecutions tend to share similar themes even if details change so the story of the X-Men is easily applied to LGBTQ folks as well as any other group that’s persecuted against.

        And if someone sides with the people who persecuted the X-Men without realizing that this makes them the villains, they really are idiotic.

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      Lol, is that the best they’ve got for us? I call myself worse things in the mirror. Mutant just makes me feel cool and interesting.

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          Trump and this post are deeply distressing, but this comment has made me laugh out loud sporadically now for like 18 hours. I just want you to know I treasure you :D

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      what a weak derogatory term. “You sly filthy mutants. You are just like those Teenage Turtles or that weird Wolverine guy.”

      honestly wear it as a badge of honor. Having comic book series made about your character traits is kind of sick. Ngl even for trump thats weak.

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    I’m going to be honest but Trump blaming mutants was not on my bingo card. Is it X-Men variety or more TMNT?

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        Considering how X-Men has long been an allegory for queer identity and the attempted oppression thereof, I hope trans people will take this as the unintentional compliment he didn’t intend it to be. In this world where conformity is choking the planet and multiplying suffering, being different is a superpower.

        Fuck Trump with a fork along with anyone who supports him.

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          I just have to tell you your comment really struck a chord with me.

          In this world where conformity is choking the planet and multiplying suffering, being different is a superpower.

          This is beautifully worded. Keep fighting the good fight and spreading your kindness :)

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          Going lower than anyone thought was possible is one of the few things Trump excels at.

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        Fucking stupid republican probably doesn’t realize the irony in calling trans people Marvel comic “mutants”. The mutants were mistreated by conservatives in those books and rounded up and sent to camps. A holocaust survivor championed their cause leading many to fight back against the human Nazis.

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      It’s the Warhammer 40k variety and we’re all about to get bombarded from the heavens in the name of the God-Emperor of Mankind for tolerating their presence on Holy Terra no less.

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      I can’t prove it but it really, really feels like this is his way of grabbing the transphobic voter base of the right without actually saying something direct about transgender people. He uses words like MUTANT and lets his potential voters read that however they want, because he knows that voting group is pretty much the only ones supporting Desantis, who seems to base his entire platform on hate and fear.

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      I am just imagining him giving a speech about how professor X is with the “deep-state” lol

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        I’m so glad you replied to that comment with this. I immediately thought the same thing when I read the original comment. Thank you for spreading this important information that too little people know!

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          Thank you. I think a lot of people think only of the Jewish genocide when they talk about Nazi crimes. While they definitely were hit the hardest and were at the forefront of Nazi hate Germany systematically persecuted communists, LGBTQ and the Sinti and Roma communities as well.

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            I definitely agree and was thinking the same. Disabled and some autistic people, too, of course among others. I wish people knew more about what went on, who was targeted, how it happened, and what we all have to do to make sure it doesn’t happen again. Thank you again for spreading the truth. I really do appreciate it.

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        …God this makes me so mad. This place was based as hell and not only did the Nazis ruin it, West Germany looked at what happened afterwards and went “meh, 'salright, I guess.”

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      I learned how dangerous dehumanization is when I went on a tour of the Holocaust Museum in DC. (SIde note: I recommend going there. It’s not a “happy” place to visit, but it’s an important one. Give yourself half a day for the museum and half a day to mentally recover. )

      At one point, you can go through or around one of the train cars that transported Jews to the death camps. I walked inside and stopped. The plaque had said how many people were crammed inside, but I couldn’t mentally fit that many people in the train car.

      Then, I realized my mistake. I was trying to fit PEOPLE. Even though the people I was trying to fit in were imaginary, I was still treating them like people. Once I tried fitting human shaped objects into the train car, I could easily fit that many.

      Once you dehumanize a group of people, the door is opened to do anything you want to them because all societal guardrails for the treatment of your fellow humans are removed.

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        Relevant Pratchett passage:

        There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin, for example,” said Oats.

        “And what do they think? Against it, are they?” said Granny Weatherwax.

        “It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.”

        “Nope.”

        "Pardon?”

        “There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.

        "It’s a lot more complicated than that . . .”

        “No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

        “Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes . . .”

        “But they starts with thinking about people as things . . . ”

        — Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum

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          Terry Pratchett gave the world so many wonderful things, this definitely being one of them.

          I wish that we still had him, even if he would hate what the world is becoming.

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            Absolutely, the man was a treasure. At least we still have over forty books of his wonderful world to enjoy and explore. He is sorely missed though.

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    He hasn’t been shy about talking about trans people. He’s guided by the applause lines, constantly a/b testing which ones get him a bigger response, and since the ecosystem of the right has been building us up as the new bad guy, the crowd loves to be reminded that they should be mad about us.

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        Yup. Lots of things aren’t about me. But the parts about vilifying trans people are inclusive of me.

        Definitely feeling some hostility that isn’t really necessary here.

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          Yeah I don’t know if it’s just the way text can be read, but that commenters comment is very uncalled for. I mean trans people didn’t ask to be made the forefront issue for all these political candidates and “news” stories. They were thrust into the spotlight by republicans and subsequently demonized as is the conservative way, I mean literally they use the same scare tactics as their gay scare culture war bullshit. Implying that people can be turned trans and that it doesn’t really exist but is a fad, just garden-variety bigotry that comes with their culture war bullshit. And your mad at this person pointing it out? Make it make sense

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    Well at least “mutant” carries the recognition that it’s not a matter of choice. If the tiny trans population is solely responsible for the indictment, then surely that means we’re superior mutants at that 😏

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    That must be why Republicans are trying so hard to reduce the budget. They want to free up money so they can spend it building Sentinels.

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    “REALLY BIG FUNDRAISING, EVEN GREATER POLLS, SINCE THE RADICAL LEFT INDICTMENT HOAX WAS INITIATED BY THE MISFITS, MUTANTS, MARXISTS, & COMMUNISTS! THANK YOU”

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    How long until conservatives try to cancel Marvel for spreading pro-mutant propaganda?

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      Well, X-Men has already been compared to the experiences of the LGBTQ+ community so really they should already be upset at them.

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    “THE MISFITS, MUTANTS, MARXISTS…” He loves that alliteration even if it makes no sense.

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        Wow, he’s complaining about Twitter 3 years before it came online. The other day I found a video of Henry Rollins complaining about YouTube in 1985.

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          I get the joke, but for those that don’t - “twittering” meant “the act of talking quickly and nervously, saying things of very little importance or interest” - which is why they named the site Twitter (or rather, “Twittr” which is what they called it back then due to the Flickr-led trend of dropping vowels).

          But that You Tube reference in 1985 - I’m trying to figure out what he meant by that back then, and I can’t, because freakin’ YouTube dominates the searches.

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            I just watched it again for the umpteenth time and finally figured out that he’s probably saying “U2,” but it sure comes out sounding like YouTube.

            Calling their site Twitter always baffled me - wouldn’t people be put off by what you’re implying? - or impressed me with their frankness. Why not mindlessblather.com? Doesn’t roll of the tongue the same way…

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      Probably that you are secretly building killer robots, that will take over the world in the future.