• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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    Lots of pro-russian votes and opinions in this thread. Revealing a damning piece of evidence about overt Russian interference in the American election is generating a lot of “I’m not sure that’s real” when it clearly is. That’s Russian interference working on this social platform. God knows how much it is perpetrated on larger platforms.

    OP, thank you for painting this. It clearly is upsetting the Russian disinformation trolls. More please!

  • RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works
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    Really glad they redacted “US Political Party A” and “US Political Party B”. I for one am completely stumped as to which parties they could be referring.

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      More like “How many Bible stories did you believe?”

      Same audience.

      “He died for your sins” is just as dissonant as any maga storyline

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    This is actually kind of a dogshit analysis of US political climate. What is this used for? Is it just like training materials for supposed Russian bots? Its interesting to speculate why an org producing these materials would represent specifically these views. How and why the analysis is skewed is interesting to look into. The racism and otherizing is like bubbling underneath every statement, while it accuses the US system of being otherizing (which it is) and racist (which it is but in some different ways.)

    Another thing I want to mention is like, so the Russians have all these keyboard warriors who they pay to boost certain views, and react to various positions in different ways, but what happens when these people stop getting paid? When they go home, etc., do they just stop believing these things? Its not just influencing elections or whatever, its also conditioning like hundreds or thousands of people through online encounters and real life salaries. Like I bet they have a supervisor that approves their responses and maybe pays a bonus if they are “in compliance” with the standard or whatever, very common among call center work, I imagine bot-net work would be almost identical.

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    I am to believe that the russian memo uses this line: “normal people who want to preserve traditions of the American way of life”? The american way is our propaganda papi, not theirs.

    I’m slamming the “doubt” button over here

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      It’s written by Russian propaganda experts for US conservative readers. They know exactly how to speak like someone from the United States. It is their job and they are very, very good at it. Arguably, our discourse is the way it is because of these people.

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      Look on the crossposted post, this is straight from the department of justice website.

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        Can you link a site where I can find the original memo untranslated? Was it published alongside that PDF? I want to see how natural it sounds, how it fits the style that memo could’ve been written in and what it tells about the person who wrote it. I’d post my opinion about the original text back.

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      To be honest, that’s how trumpies are presented in internal russian propaganda. A lot of talking points, arguments and dogwhistles are mirrored between Fox and RT. I’d say, that in itself it’s the most shallow and stereotypical description one can produce.

      Keeping that in mind, if that part is characterizing the baseline of what they should put into media, it kinda works? Imagine sitting in a cubicle, looking at it as a template before formulating another response, hanging it next to the monitor. It kinda fits the image of suspected 9\5 drone-farms called пятнадцатирублевые who spread ‘Truth, and nothing but Truth’.