Reason for this meme is that some ubisoft titles are shipped with a broken version of ubisoft connect launcher. Installing these games is only possible by running the installer for the launcher again via protontricks.

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      Funnily the first time I tried Linux on my desktop was because I wanted to play BF4 but the EA App refused to launch on Windows 10 even after restarting/reinstalling everything.

      I slapped Pop_OS on a backup SSD and got it running through Lutris within the hour.

      Origin was a fucking nightmare to use even on Windows, and honestly…the EA desktop app wasn’t really an improvement.

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        Origin was better in literally every way, but it’s predecessor, the EA Download Manager, was even better, as it wasn’t an always-online DRM piece of shit. You logged in, it listed your games, it downloaded them, and games still used a CD key.

        Though I’m still pissy, as I bought NFS Carbon and obtained it via EADM, but when they moved to Origin, existing games didn’t transfer, and there was no way to grab games for archival. So EA owes me a fucking copy of Carbon, since I didn’t have it installed when they sunset EADM.

        Fuck you, EA. In every conceivable sense of the word and action.

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      That’s a tough one. Clearly, everyone hates both kernel-level anticheat and cheaters. The level of hate depends.

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        Cheaters are a solved problem, in my opinion. It used to be that people hosted servers- moderating and managing their own communities. The industry went away from that in pursuit of cosmetics and control. There aren’t cheaters on well managed community servers in Valve games, but cheaters run rampant in matchmaking in those same games.

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          The issue is that that’s only a solution for a certain type of multiplayer game. MMOs and battle royales for example cannot feasibly implement community servers as their main form of multiplayer connection, because very few people have the capabilities to host such servers, much less moderate them at such high player counts. Heck, there’s even arguments to be made for the value of public matchmaking, despite how often it gets blasted in spaces such as this. Private servers are unfortunately not a one-size-fits-all solution.

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              You’re right, there are, but my point was that private MMO servers are significantly harder to host and moderate than a private server in a match-based multiplayer game like say Team Fortress 2. An MMO that relies on private servers is almost certainly doomed to fail, so it must have some form of official server, which then will need some form of cheating prevention.

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    i think you might be misunderstanding what ‘3rd party’ means. if ubisoft is making you use an ubisoft launcher to run ubisoft games, that’d be first party. here’s an article detailing what the terms mean with regards to game developers. a third party launcher would be like when you add a non-steam game to steam.

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          Yes.

          What if i want to play the original portal game on a pc that cannot have internet? Steam does not allow me to download a straight installer, its a license with a long list of acceptable and non acceptable uses.

          Don’t get me wrong i love valve and what they have done for gaming as a concept, as a linux i would not Be able to game as i do if it was not for proton.

          But if i purchase a game i demand to own my copy.

          I actually have a database where i keep pirate and cracked copies of games i own legit licenses because i refuse to have my rights limited simply because of the possibility of a victimless crime where checks note some big corp gets slightly less profit.

          All games should be available standalone.

          And while, am speaking my software opinions

          If i buy a game license on one system it should cover that game all other platforms and systems. No more buying the same game twice just to play on different hardware. (This makes less sense if its a dedicated copy and not a license though)

          All software from hardware that is no longer receiving support must be open sourced, i am looking at you near mint first gen ipad mini. I die before you end on a landfill in such good state.

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      I dunno, I tend to think of the useless thing that comes up for a game I bought on Steam and run through Steam to be “third party”… Maybe that’s a stretch, but whatever, it’s just unwanted and unnecessary at that point

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          Yes, the launcher I use for almost all my games which gives me a single interface to install, update, and run them. It has purpose. It’s the launcher I’m actually intending to use.

          Eats Ass games (as one example) loading up their own launcher in the middle of that and providing no actual benefit other than wasting my time and resources is NOT something I choose to use.

          Whichever one is primary or third party, I don’t really care about the semantics of it, but the extra launcher that isn’t needed or wanted is what I think of when someone’s talking about third party launchers.

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            I’m just saying, there is a clear double standard in this post/comment section in general where Valve gets a pass.

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              Perhaps because Steam is the launcher we actually choose to use? That does make a big difference…

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                I’m a fan of Steam. People will complain about monopolies but then want there to be a monopoly for this kind of software.

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              I don’t think it’s entirely a double standard. Yes Steam is still a launcher, but it’s also the marketplace I buy my games. If I bought a game on Origin or UPlay, and then Steam popped up when I was trying to play my game, that would still be bullshit.

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    Really? Ubisoft though? If there’s any game studio I could do without, it would be Ubi. Because of their practices I haven’t bought a game from them in years and years, and honestly it’s not even been a challenge to pass them up.

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      There’s so much attempted shaming in these comments. People like some of their games and some like them a lot. Even if you don’t feel like they’re the best, Original and Odyssey still carry the attachment people have for Assassin’s Creed and Anno 1800 has no real direct comparable alternatives.

      Stop trying to make people feel bad for just wanting to enjoy something they like when they are the victim of these companies trying to make their life harder. The fact that Ubisoft treats their customers like trash isn’t something to rub in someone’s face, it’s too bad that some people’s hobbies are locked behind something like that.