• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    Man, remember when getting a sneaky beej was the most shocking thing a president could do?

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      Remember the OUTRAGE the right exhibited?? I always knew they were full of shit and hitching their waggon to Trump proved it without the shadow of a doubt.

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        it’s still sexual harassment if not assault and what happened to Lewinsky at the time is a national disgrace. the republicans were faking outrage but on the other side there was none, and that’s shameful too.

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          Oh I think there was plenty of outrage from Hillary. He’d have felt that behind closed doors.

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            If she’d opened that door, she might not have lost in 2016. Hard to respect the judgement of someone who was still married him after all that. Her loss was a perfect storm of a lot of factors, but I believe that was one of them.

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              The other thing they could have done is just be honest about their relationship . Their marriage is political and economic, and they may very well have great affection for each other - I don’t know. But they clearly don’t expect fidelity in their relationship, and if that’s what works for them that’s fine. Just be honest about it.

              I have a lot more of a problem with Bill taking sexual advantage of a 22yo intern while he was President of the United States. That power imbalance makes consent nearly impossible, and I’m still mad at my fellow Dems for defending that.

              He should have been impeached for that, not the trumped-up perjury bullshit.

              We also would’ve had an incumbent President Gore going into 2000, which might have been nice.

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      getting a sneaky beej

      I get that you’re comparing it with Trump’s flagrant and near constant flaunting of the law, but also don’t forget that Bill was an Epstein regular. He abused his position for sexual favors and we shouldn’t rehabilitate that.

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      Trump is way worse, and the “perjury trap” used with separate definitions of “sex” in the 2 investigations (Lewinsky and Jones) so Clinton couldn’t answer the question without committing perjury was bullshit.

      But in the post “me-too” era can my fellow Dems admit that the President of the United States getting a 22yo White House intern to give him a blowjob is beyond unacceptable. There’s such a massive imbalance of power in that relationship that consent is really tricky.

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        As a Dem, I’m going to say that I don’t support what Bill Clinton did given their power level difference. But, I do acknowledge what Trump did was way worse, and I will always compare him negatively to whatever you come up with.

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    He looks so much younger/healthier than last time. I wonder if he had covid last dnc, because I remember him looking like SpongeBob with the suds.

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        Bill Clinton is pretty much the face of corporate greed, manipulation, and exploiting the working class for the benefit of corporate overlords. The world is objectively worse because of his presidency.

        He is 78. He is going to die. These are just facts. The sooner he’s in the ground the sooner I can stop hearing from his flapping asshole of a mouth.

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          Wasn’t that Reagan? I’m not in the US, so please take this as a genuine question. So far, I’ve heard nothing as bad about Clinton regarding economics.

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            Clinton actually produced a large budget surplus the last two years of his Presidency. If this trend of financial stability (supposedly a characteristic of Republicans) had been continued, the US would have become debt-free years ago. Instead our national debt is sitting (and growing) at $35 trillion dollars, equivalent to about six years of total tax revenue.

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            the person above is an asshole but not entirely wrong. there was a good amount of deregulation under clinton, like repealing glass-steagall for example. not as bad a reagan but still not great.

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            Donald Trump is an authoritarian tyrant who is only interested in benefiting himself. Donald Trump is corporate greed personified. Just look at Mar-a-lago. Its literally revolting and that lifestyle is his entire personality. No one should live in such obscene, revolting opulance while others in this country starve to death and die because they can’t afford medications like insulin or epipens. He is a moral abomination and his existence speaks to a systemic abject failure of American democracy to hold these weirdos accountable for their actions.

            Bill Clinton is all about schmoozing up to corporate fucks like Donald in the hopes that they will both benefit at our expense. He’s all too happy to negotiate with republican terrorists if it means there’s money involved. Jon Stewart aptly describes this as the “soft hum of corruption” in the Democratic party. A big part of the unregulated nightmare that is the American economy is the direct result of his anti-worker pro-corporate deregulation campaign.

            In many ways Bill Clinton not offering a strong progressive agenda has lead us to where we are today. Donald Trump is a symptom of a failing society. He is not an isolated incident, and others will come in his place if the underlying problems in American society (started by Nixon and hugely accelerated by Reagan) are not resolved.

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      geez if anyone needs to log off and touch some grass

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      Oh and possibly committed more fraud between you and your wife between Whitewater, Travelgate, and Filegate than Donny too…

      Trump: convicted on 34 counts of tax fraud.

      Clintons: convicted of 0 anythings.

      Man, it must really chap Republican ass that their god is finally being held accountable for his crimes, and yet the Clintons, who they’ve been investigating and smearing for fucking decades haven’t been charged with one single crime. Guess that means either

      a) the GOP is laughably incompetent,
      b) the Clintons haven’t committed any of the crimes the GOP likes to accuse them of, or
      c) all the above.

      (Hint: the answer is C)

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        Yeah, remind me who was was illegally using campaign funds to pay Stormy not to rat him out about her near rape experience while his wife was pregnant. The hypocrisy is just astounding. You’d think that they would want to avoid conversations about adultery.

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    big dog still has it 💚

    bill clinton was my first “vote” in the channel one national mock election when i was in sixth grade and he was president when i visited the white house a year later. i still have my socks the cat comic book i got from the gift shop :)