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    Man, China must be watching this shitshow, looking at Outer Manchuria and wondering what exactly Russia could do about it at this point if they decided to reverse the Treaty of Aigun…

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          And this is why nuclear powers don’t start stupid wars of conquest, because if they fail (normally they fail), “nukes fly”.

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              Sharp as a rusty cleaver. I really don’t understand what you are trying to say. What about Vietnam? Who tried to conquer it, China? You understand what an annexation is? The only time an annexation worked since WW2 was sort of Tibet at least that I can remember.

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          That’s just the thing: No one knows, not even the Russians.
          Which is why they won’t launch them. Cause that could lead to a worse outcome for Putin than total annihilation - public embarassment.

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    Is there anything between the Urals and Alaska that would slow down an invading army? Other than the lack of infrastructure.

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      Just like everything. Forests, swamps, rivers, extreme weather. There’s a reason people don’t live in that part of the world

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        I’d slightly categorize that under “lack of infrastructure”. Taiga covers 12% of Earth’s land area and is difficult to travel in. 25% of Earth’s land area is mountainous, 33% desert, 7% rainforest…

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        Yes. Putin has been acting like global warming will unlock more Russian land for production. Turns out the permafrost areas are such because they were mostly giant bogs before freezing.

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          The explosions of Methane as it thaws is interesting and worrying. Definitely not a place that people are going to want to live in even when warmer.

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      No, just look in to history they have lost control of it 1918-1920.

      As my friend says “I will join army only if I can ride trains through Siberia and shoot ruzzians, as my grandfather.”

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      Until very recently, I’d have called it a stalemate. I don’t think any side can be described as “winning” right now.

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      It’s hard to know…

      But don’t forget that Russia thought they’d seize Ukraine quickly. They haven’t. Even if they “win”, it will be a shit show and they won’t be able to keep it

      I also have a Russian coworker who joined the Company after the war and he was embarrassed about Russia. I seriously doubt most of their soldiers are motivated to fight

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      Don’t listen to them.

      political propaganda is extremely effective and it’s impossible to make out the from the noise.

      Near as I can tell Ukraine was losing fairly badly and the invasion was a last ditch effort that nobody wanted, although they are still backed by NATO and they won’t lose until they let them but Russia has an almost endless supply of Troops and equipment so they will lose eventually unless the war gets too embarrassing or it risks going Nuclear.

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        As a US SSBN submariner - bring it. Give me one good reason to set 1SQ and let these birds fly. I dare you.