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    Most of these Republicans probably have been vaccinated in their childhood. It’s their children that will pay the price of their ignorance.

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    Person who has spent 20+ years studying viruses and how they effect the human body: “Vaccines are effective and safe.”

    Random politician with very little science or medical education: “Vaccines are bad because <equally ignorant Podcaster> say they are.”

    Republican voter: “I agree with the idiot politician.”

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      I’m a biostatisitcian who has taught several infectious disease epidemiology classes, and my hick-ass family doesn’t treat me like I know what I’m talking about.

      Even my actually libertarian parents are voting for RFK Jr. RFK Jr. led the charge of anti vaxxing in Somoa during a measles outbreak. 63 children died. He went into black communties during covid and compared the RNA vaccine to the Tuskeegee experiments. Fuck antivaxxers and fuck RFK.

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        taught several infectious disease epidemiology classes

        Thanks for doing what you do, even if there’s ignorant people in the world that don’t believe you.

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        He went into black communties during covid and compared the RNA vaccine to the Tuskeegee experiments

        daaaaamn I didn’t know he did that, that is deeply fucked up

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        my actually libertarian parents are voting for RFK Jr. RFK Jr.

        Strange choice considering Chase Oliver is actually a p decent candidate

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            I will immediately end the Federal backing of student loans by asking Congress to make all current loans interest-free, while simultaneously ending all future government-guaranteed loans.
            

            I would then make the discharge of interest revenue neutral by requiring the Department of Defense to cut costs by closing overseas bases and installations and bringing our troops home, instead of engaging in expensive nation-building and peacekeeping missions abroad. It is only right that the DoD bear part of the cost, as mounting debt is as big a threat to our security as any foreign enemy,

            Finally, I would allow students to stabilize their financial situations by allowing student loan debt to be dischargeable in bankruptcy just like any other loan. I want a well-educated populace that can compete with the minds of any other nation, but not at the cost of our nation’s financial and retirement security.

            Yes.

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              I mean, I agree with the second one (and massive cuts to the DoD and the staggering amount of wastr there; not so much the focus on foreign bases), but I hope there’s a LOT more stuff than that.

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      Context is the left’s biggest weakness and the lack of it is the alt-rights greatest strength.

      It’s easy to be short, quippy, and loud and much harder to be informed and detailed.

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        You’re right, but consider that virtually all forms of media have been working overtime to reduce average attention spans to the narrowest possible window over the past 20-30 years. This can make it much more difficult for the informed messages to register before that next notification fires off.

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    Let’s start a program where we let people volunteer to catch the disease naturally. We lock them up in a quarantine building, and televise their horrible suffering.

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      We don’t have to be cruel. We exiled Typhoid Mary to an island. Send all the anti-vaxxers to some island in Alaska and let them figure it out for themselves. Just make sure they can’t swim away or make a boat.

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        I have a friend that lives on a farm. He told me they have had issues with rats one summer. Pest control didn’t help much.
        So, his dad catched a live rat and but it on a bbq. That poor thing must have screeched like crazy. My friend said it was hard to witness.
        The rats they had must have thought the same. Most of them left. The problem was solved.

        So, if it needed a well documented case of a anti-vaxxer having a slow and painful death, and showing it on youtube or tictoc or insta to drop the number of anti-vaxxers from 30% to even only 20%, i think, overall, society would be better off and this one humans life was well spend, saving so many after it.

        No, no /s. I dont condone violence. This is a “what if” thought experiment.

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            Pet rats are one thing but absolutely fuck wild rats as a pest. When they get into your walls, your floorboards. Your kitchen and bedrooms. Like roaches, if someone finds out, it implies you are an unclean housekeeper but in reality they’re just fucking hard to get rid of. They shit everywhere. Your bed. Your floors and dishes. They chew up the wood on corners and the feet of tables and chairs. They’ll bite you and your kids in your sleep leaves welts. If they get a large enough population they’ll bite your pets or worse. In addition they themselves are unclean. Everything has to be washed before you use it or touch it. Every dry good in your pantry they get into. Even when you get rid of them, the habit of checking edges of boxes never goes away. They’ll chitter in the back of closets where you can’t see them. Give birth all over your shirts in a drawer, and turn your socks into confetti. Then die in a wall and reek for weeks.

            Fuck rats.

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          I’m pretty sure there were a lot of videos of people dying from COVID on the Internet. I don’t think it changed people’s minds. Belief is social, and many people don’t overcome that. If their in-group believes a thing, that’s what they believe.

          Also don’t burn animals alive wtf.

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        If you do that then you might get a few who are resistant to the diseases. They’ll get it multiple times, survive, and claim they are the master race when they return to society. It will be difficult to argue against that since they survived “The Great Quarantine”.

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    These people are going to be responsible for a virus evolving into such a virulent strain that we’ll all be fucked because there won’t be a viable vaccine anymore.

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        And these are the same sort of people who don’t go through the full course because “I feel better now.”

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      It doesn’t work like that.

      Although, the anti-vaxxers are the reason why we have about 8 different COVID vaccines right now.

      I’d have to go back and double check, but the US only got up to ~75% with a single shot, ~60 with both, and less than ~40 with a booster.

      Would have been nice to get this taken care of before it became endemic in the US.

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    One must think those 30% are the crazies. The Gaetz. The MTG. The Boebert. They’re just leading the party at the moment. Their handlers lost control to Russia. I believe we will see many changes to GOP over the next year

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    It’s almost like the diseases aren’t bad specifically because we have vaccines.

    These dumbfucks don’t see the danger because we spent so much time, effort, and money to make them not so bad. I’m sure there is a name for this phenomenon. Idiocy, maybe?

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    That’s not even a bad number, honestly, I expected the percentage to be much higher, especially after the world-wide drama around COVID vaccines.

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    This is really a denial of the authority and expertise of public health officials. Vaccines COULD be more dangerous than the diseases they prevent (theoretically…doubt it has happened for other reasons), or at least have side effects that make the vaccines not worth giving to everyone. Like the smallpox vaccine isn’t given to everyone anymore because it just isn’t worth the cost/benefit analysis anymore.

    But if a vaccine doesn’t pass the cost/benefit analysis, it doesn’t get approved for common use. That is the job of public health officials. So that 31% are all wrong if they mean “all vaccines” or “currently widely available vaccines” which they almost certainly do.

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      Because smallpox was completely eradicated. It no longer exists in nature, due to…

      checks notes

      Gasp!

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      The genie grants your wish. Everyone on Earth at the moment of the wish emerges from cryosleep 50 years from now with no memory of how they got into the cryosleep pod, nor how they got to it, and worse, as well rested as they were right before the event happened. Important parts of infrastructure have crumbled in our absence. Nature has taken back over.

      Mankind finds itself with different problems, but are they any better?

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    Their terms are acceptable as long as they sign waivers that they will not seek medical help for those illnesses.

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      Nah, let them get medical help. The waivers just say that they get bumped if someone who is taking precautions, or had a medical exemption for vaccines, gets sick.

      I don’t care if they’re on a ventilator and unable to move, if some immunodeficient kid who couldn’t get the shot needs that spot, just wheel the anti vaxxer into the hallway and let them croak.

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      It won’t. This is just a symptom of the mass delusion 20% of Americans are afflicted with. They need cult deprogramming before they destroy the entire country.

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      Except that eventually it will destroy the herd immunity that keeps us safe. These easily eradicated diseases will mutate and vaccinated people will start getting sick.