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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
    151·
    2 months ago

    haha, okay, he’s the guy that came up with the “just weird” label for trrmp and vance, that’s a strong enough starting endorsement for me

  • kn0wmad1c@programming.devEnglish
    115·
    2 months ago

    EDIT: I don’t know why my particular lemmy instance is displaying this image so large, but if you’re also affected by the largeness of this image, I deeply apologize.

    • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca
      63·
      2 months ago

      VP picks are usually diversity hires. They’re chosen specifically for who they are (and who they can appeal to) rather than anything they can actually do. How many times has a presidential candidate from the North east chosen a running mate from the south to appeal to southern voters? It’s basically a tradition. The thing that makes it racist is to only notice when non-white people are involved.

      • Fedizen@lemmy.world
        27·
        2 months ago

        The 12th amendment mandates the vp and president inhabit different states. That is a form of diversity hire, by constitutional requirement

        • ImADifferentBirdEnglish
          34·
          2 months ago

          Technically, it doesn’t mandate that. But it does mandate that no elector can vote for both a President and Vice President from their own state, so it would open up the possibility of a split administration. Which is why parties avoid it.

          It was amusing to see people float Gavin Newsom as Harris’s VP pick for that reason. With that rule, and the outsized number of Electoral votes that CA has, it’d practically guarantee a Harris/Vance administration if she won.

          • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
            15·
            2 months ago

            Yet another severely outdated law we have. Although getting rid of the EC would also take care of that problem.

            • Wiz@midwest.socialEnglish
              10·
              2 months ago

              No, they would do the Dick Cheney thing and say, “Ackshully I live in a different state now.”

    • ieatpwns@lemmy.world
      14·
      2 months ago

      s/

      No no no he’ll be the puppet master pulling the strings from behind the scenes

      /s

      • vxx@lemmy.world
        8·
        2 months ago

        Aren’t they currently saying this about Harris during the Biden Presidency? Of course while claiming she’s dumb and not qualified.

      • Samvega
        6·
        2 months ago

        That would be an even more horrendous accusation if he were Jewish.

        I’m actually just checking to see whether he has any Jewish ancestry for RW conspiracy nuts to bring up, just in case.

      • ImADifferentBirdEnglish
        4·
        2 months ago

        Hey, just because he’s a fat, balding white guy from a western state, doesn’t make him Dick Cheney.

    • ChillPenguin@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      Nah, they’ll just talk about his old rocks and cows quote, or how he’s making sure children are fed in schools.

    • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
      85·
      2 months ago

      He may not have gone to space, but Tim has been an awesome governor here in Minnesota, I look forward to seeing what he brings to the campaign.

      • CPMSP@midwest.social
        19·
        2 months ago

        Amen friend, all through the early pandemic days and afterwards I’ve been damned proud of what Walz brings to the table. He’s been a good governor – I guess we have to share now.

    • rezifon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      I wanted the gay dude who makes Fox News his bitch.

      Still pretty fucking hyped to vote, either way.

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      There was a story a day or two ago that it had been narrowed to Walz or Shapiro. Between those two, I’m pleasantly surprised.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        Same. I’m delighted to be wrong. I thought for sure she was gonna pick Shapiro just to show progressives who’s boss.

    • Bone@lemmy.world
      6·
      2 months ago

      I wonder if he needed more time with his wife. She’s the former congresswoman who was shot, right? I just thought that that might have factored into it.

      • WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
        3·
        2 months ago

        I think it was too risky to give up his Senate seat. His seat is too purple, it could easily go to a Republican in a special election.

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 months ago

      Kelly didn’t have enough government experience, only 2 years. I’m not sure he was ever taken as a final contender.

    • Xanis@lemmy.world
      3·
      2 months ago

      Tbf, we have enough fucking space cadets in politics. Could use some more down to earth candidates.

        • cowfodder@lemmy.world
          66·
          2 months ago

          Is it really a criticism though? There’s nothing of merit to it. I could see criticizing the pick based on Walz’s views (though I’d probably argue against that too; Walz has a pretty stellar record).

          He’s basically the same age as Harris, so the “old” portion of the criticism is right out the window. What we’re left with is that he’s a white man, which is always what the VP pick was going to be. The unfortunate truth in this country is that a lot of voters are not ready to support a presidential ticket with two women or people of color.

        • Tyfud@lemmy.world
          23·
          2 months ago

          That’s not how criticism works. There needs to be something of substance for a critique to have merit.

          This was just stereotyping someone based on their looks. You know, the thing we give the other side shit for doing with Harris. It’s not productive, not a good look, and outside of the internet it’s a great way to tell the people around you that you have nothing of value to add to a conversation or discussion.

          • ABCDE@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            A criticism of something and a critique imply different things; criticism can be short, like theirs was, and that is fine for online forums. You can, of course, criticise their criticism, I can can criticise that.

          • ABCDE@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            Your post is whining with nothing constructive. Not all criticism needs to be so constructive, it’s an online forum. But, it’s a criticism of the establishment of old white men, which many of us are tired of.

    • CompostMaterial@lemmy.worldEnglish
      26·
      2 months ago

      It is obviously a cycle we need to break. That said, a campaign has to make choices that lead to victory. Kamala is already a person of color and a woman. If she wins, it would be only the second time to have a non-white President and the first woman.

      The fact is that while many us are hungry for change to the old norms, many will be more conservative to change (and I don’t mean in the crazy MAGA way). Having an old white guy on the ticket acts as an anchor for those who are too scared to fully jump into all out change, ensuring that those votes aren’t lost to the other side.

      • dodgy_bagel
        4·
        2 months ago

        Holy fuck that ancient guy is young!

        How the fuck do you age like that?

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
          3·
          2 months ago

          Well he has a job that can be very stressful and in the White Guys For Harris interview, he talked about him and his wife fighting SEVEN YEARS to conceive, so that may well have taken its toll too.

          And then there’s the ever present danger of being hit by an errant hockey puck or violated by a moose or an elk inherent to life in Minnesota, of course.

  • mctoasterson@reddthat.com
    6·
    2 months ago

    Purely strategically, it is an absolutely braindead move to not pick Shapiro. 538 has done a lot of work recently showing the likelihood that whoever wins PA will almost certainly win the election. So why would she decline to select the PA candidate with 60+% approval in that state?

    • aleph@lemm.eeEnglish
      42·
      2 months ago

      You can bet they have their polling data that says otherwise. Shapiro was a deeply controversial pick who could have killed a lot of the enthusiasm, and he only helps in one individual swing state. Waltz Walz has broad demographic appeal, so they presumably weighed up both and decided that he was the better bet.