• hsdkfr734r@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    80
    ·
    5 months ago

    I mean. They invented the Olympic torch relay and overall showed their competence in Propaganda. You can sell literally anything if you do it right.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics

    The Games were the first to be televised, with radio broadcasts reaching 41 countries.[2] Filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl was commissioned by the German Olympic Committee to film the Games for $7 million.[2] Her film, titled Olympia, pioneered many of the techniques now common in the filming of sports.

    • cabbage@piefed.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      edit-2
      5 months ago

      Yeah, the 1936 was a huge and famously pretty successful propaganda event for Nazi Germany. It might have served as an inspiration for certain other authoritarian regimes.

      At least the Chinese and the Russians didn’t upset American sensitivities! Good for them. <3

  • cabbage@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    68
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    I think this year’s opening ceremony did a wonderful job showcasing France and French culture in all its diversity. There’s some really clever juxtaposition of tradition and contemporary France. Aya Nakamura, who has been criticized for her unconventional use of French language, dancing with the guards of the Académie Française (the institution responsible for the French language) was amazing, and a great fuck you to the people out there who pretend to be traditionalist but are really just poorly camouflaged racists with their heads stuck up their asses.

    The blue naked man everybody seem so upset by is a cultural treasure, and he did not disappoint.

    The fact that Americans are having a meltdown over it of course makes everything better, but it’s just a bonus.

  • katy ✨
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    51
    ·
    5 months ago

    “it was the only time the olympics weren’t woke” - some daily wire dude on twitter, probably

    • pelletbucket@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      5 months ago

      dude it was woke as shit, an African-American took four gold medals in the capital of Nazi Germany

  • Leraje
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    5 months ago

    Finally, an Olympics christians can get behind and support.

  • dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    5 months ago

    The people complaining about the Paris 2024 opening ceremonies are probably big fans of the Germany 1936 opening ceremonies.

  • Got_Bent@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    5 months ago

    Depending on how the election goes, this could very well be a precursor to the upcoming Los Angeles Olympics.

  • pelletbucket@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    that was just an ordinary type of salute in 1936. it wasn’t replaced in the American flag code until 1942

    *guys stop getting butthurt over wikipedia articles

  • Phegan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    5 months ago

    If I remember correctly, this Olympics started the trend of elaborate opening ceremonies because Hitler wanted to create more fanfare.

    Opening ceremonies are legit Nazi shit.

    • Quik@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      5 months ago

      You often refer to Germany by the state then in place you mean, as there were multiple times where there has not been a single Germany (think DDR/BRD or before there was a single Germany to begin with) and overall a lot of German states with very different political systems during the years.

      • dwindling7373@feddit.it
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        5 months ago

        No I don’t think I do… I probably used west and east Germany a couple of times but that’s it. Any country in the past were different than the modern counterpart anyway, and I feel distinguishing Nazi Germany from current Germany leans into some magical trasformation that I personally don’t love.

        • Quik@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          5 months ago

          Yeah, I mean, I get that. Still, one could argue, not every country had such a (at best) mixed history politics-wise and naming the different states existing at different points in time quickly tells the reader a lot of political context as well as highlights that there was a said transformation process (but not a magical one).

        • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          5 months ago

          distinguishing Nazi Germany from current Germany leans into some magical trasformation

          There’s an interesting debate on the amount of Nazi leaders, government officials and capitalists that were allowed to stay in their positions of power in western Germany after the Nazi were defeated. As a Spanish person, I myself sadly see the legacy of fascism in the Spanish institutions, and believe that the transition to democracy was way, way, way too lenient with fascists and fascism. That said, it’s useful to refer to countries whose systems of governance have changed drastically over time, by the system of the time you’re referring to, it’s not exclusive to Germany.

          • dwindling7373@feddit.it
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            5 months ago

            I’m not so convinced you can even talk about a “transition”. Fascism and its nazi derivation, brewed and rised within democratic countries. And, lo and behold, they are still among us in our democracies so much so that they are ruling a number of countries.

            Fascist Spain is Spain. Fascist Italy is Italy. Fascist Japan is Japan and Nazi Germany is as clearly just Germany.

            Denying that is dangerous and doesn’t give you the tools, as a country, to change.

            • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              Again, I agree that the fascists weren’t properly tried for their crimes and removed from the institutions (they were in east-germany). I’m just saying that there’s a consensus nowadays about using those terms to refer to countries that changed their regime at least in theory. If you want to make the argument to change that consensus, you’d be better understood explaining from the start your issues with the terms because of the lack of renovation of people in power and power structures, rather than just saying “there’s no other Germany”.

              • dwindling7373@feddit.it
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                5 months ago

                Considering the context I priorityzed brevity. I’ll make a note and include that as a chapter in my magnus opum.

    • volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      5 months ago

      When countries have had antecessor-states that have been drastically changed over historical events, normally through a change or system of governance, it’s common to refer to the type of system that was in place at the time you’re referring to.

      For example, it’s common to refer to 1950s Spain as Fascist Spain (no more Spains on earth at that time), 1950s Russia as Soviet Russia (no more Russias at that time), 1890s Russia as Tsarist Russia (no more Russias at the time)… You get my point.