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      Slaves are expensive, you have to pay upfront and provide “housing” and “food”; desperate workers are so much better, they have to pay for their own shit with whatever scraps you throw at them!

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        Slaves are only more expensive upfront. Long run it’s far cheaper considering they will have kids that you then also own. There is a reason why those inbred chicken shit sister fuckers in the south had slaves instead of paying farm workers.

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            Brazil also had that fucked up thing. A slave’s children were owned by the same asshole that owned the slave. It was only around the 1850s, decades before the full emancipation (1888), that all newborn children were considered free. It didn’t mean much in most cases, since the mother being a slave meant the entire cost of caring for her kid would eventually become a debt to them

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    If you work at SquareSpace, start talking about a union. The C-Level there absolutely gives no fucks about replacing you.

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      She claims to have done so:

      "I went to the business listings and I just started calling up companies and asking them if they had internships available and that I would be willing to work for free.”

      It worked. Mathur’s first foot in the door of employment was at the travel firm Travelocity during her first summer at the University of Texas. She did admin and research for its general council—all for free.

      I wonder how the money worked at that stage in her life. Was she living off loans? Was she living off wealth from another source?

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        I just started calling companies and asking

        Immediately I don’t trust whatever advice she’s dispensing. You can’t just “call places” or “walk in with a resume” anymore. The phone numbers are all automated systems that will never put you in front of people who can hire you. You need a badge to get in anywhere that’ll give you an internship which you can’t get if you don’t work there, and if you did somehow talk to someone they’d just shrug and say “I don’t know how that works, just go to our website and apply there”

        Even ignoring the “let them eat cake attitude” it’s obvious she doesn’t even realize how hiring works at her own company. I guarantee you that her advice would not work at Squarespace

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          I imagine it’s something along the lines of calling people at companies who her family knows. I just assume when rich people say nonsense like that, it’s just networking or nepotism that normal people don’t have access to.

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            Ya, and when rich people get an internship, they are not expected to actually do work. But they somehow believe that they are actually doing work and they believe they did hard work.

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        Highly likely that there was some connections to grease a bit of the wheels of commerce.

        All these “i worked as an intern” usually have some connections that “picked” them from that intern pool. The other interns usually tend to be the fall guys. “So sorry all of you missed out but this person is the bestest!”. While being the son/daughter/friend/family of someone in that company.

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          I used to work at an insurance company, and I ran the internship program for my department once. When we were doing the interviews, one of the candidates was from my geographic area, which is pretty rural and not many of my coworkers were from anywhere near there. He’d launched a free tutoring program at his high school and carried it on a few hours a week through his first couple years of university until that point. For paid work experience, he had mostly agricultural work, because he had to support his family.

          I’m realizing now that I may have been a little naïve about it, but no one else even wanted to consider him compared to the students who were able to do many more extracurricular activities and were able to dedicate more hours to non paid work.

          What I’m trying to say is that even if nobody is actively corrupt, it’s a structurally classist system.

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            What I’m trying to say is that even if nobody is actively corrupt, it’s a structurally classist system.

            Yep … this.

            Whether there are lies or nepotism or completely inapplicable experiences or just confirmation biases … the very idea of the internship to get your foot in the door is classist.

            The idea that you have time to burn for free for the sake of your career is classist. The idea that an economic system premised on everyone being employed somehow should work by having those employees constantly “hustle” to get employment is classist. To speak of these notions as universally applicable without acknowledging their classism … is classist.

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        I wonder how the money worked at that stage in her life.

        People can do a lot if mommy and daddy support them regardless. That’s why making things work for recipients of nepotism should not be the basis of the economy.

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        Probably parents money. But even if it were a loan she’d have to have had more privilege than most to get to that position anyway.

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    Spoken like a true capitalist. Work for free, kiss the boots of corporate execs, and maybe we’ll throw you a none.

    milLeNnIaLsAnDgEnZdOnTwAnTtOwOrK

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    From her Wikipedia page lmao:

    Kinjil Mathur is an American business woman known for propagating slavery type employment for Gen z which reflects her capitalist mindset of exploiting people for her own personal wealth. Her quote “You really have to just be willing to do anything, any hours, any pay, any type of job—just really remain open.” 1 been widely slammed by Gen z generation .she is also the current chief marketing officer of Squarespace.[3][4][5] She was in Vogue’s list of “49 incredible Indian women who are creating legacies across the globe”. [6] [1]

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    If you have to think outside the box to get a job to survive, then the job market is critically bad.

    The ownership class should be trembling.

    Either the government rolls out new deal measures, yesterday…

    Or all the industrialists and officials burn in their compounds,

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      We’re still a long way off from that.

      Remember, it took Hoovervilles and mass suicides to correct from black Tuesday, and there was just as much wealth inequality then as there is now.

      Until a large portion of the economy just collapses, the government won’t do anything. And they’ve learned their lesson about letting things get that bad, so they’ll just balance us on a knife edge for as long as physically possible before things inevitably collapse.

      Learn how to garden if you have the room. If not, learn how to can your own food and mend your own appliances and clothes. It’s going to get a whole lot worse before we get another new deal.

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        The Democratic party is already in a situation where it can’t make mistakes and it can’t get unlucky or it loses the presidency, and if it loses the presidency then elections will be neutered and the US becomes a one-party autocracy.

        And if it becomes a one-party autocracy, then it’ll have to perpetuate the enemy within myth (and eventually go to war) to keep the people obedient. And that means burning (maybe literally) a portion of the population, starting with LGBT+ and enemies of the regime (that’s all the principal democrats) and going for non-whites, non-Christians, disabled folk, unemployed folk, people who have unnecessary jobs, uppity women, anyone overly ethnic, countercultures and eventually, anyone who isn’t sufficiently patriotic or is too slow in snapping their salute.

        At least this is the model that Reinhard Heydrich created in the development of the Sicherheitsdienst, and is replicated in the standard operations of ICE regarding immigrants and anyone else they’d rather see disappear.

        But the German occupation of Paris was brutal despite themselves, despite that they were ordered to govern the French gently, and the brutality was so extreme La Résistance manifested in days, starting small and becoming a formidable fighting and mischief force within two years. So if Trump wins the election (or secures power through a procedural coup d’etat or through a violent coup d’etat) the resistance will be organizing across states by the end of 2025, assuming open civil war doesn’t break out.

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    They try this bullshit for generations now.

    You couldn’t get gen x to work for free, you couldn’t get us millennials to work for free, what makes you think you’ll be able to get the next ones to work for free lol.

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          Because when everyone except the upper classes is financially insecure you would be willing to do anything at a chance to not be, including giving away your labor for free for a chance of a paycheck maybe.

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      This isn’t click-bait. An unpaid internship IS unpaid work.

      In Australia and a number of other countries they are ILLEGAL. (Other than when it forms a small part of a degree).

      Unpaid internships are work, and it seems you agree. This CMO is literally saying people should be willing to work for free to get their foot in the door, a disgusting and illegal practice which only gives employers even more power.

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      It’s fucked up that unpaid internships are even a thing in the US. In Canada, they are illegal. And guess what? Most companies still hire interns. The only reason they don’t pay them in the US is because they can get away with it.

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      Their quoting of “unpaid internship” as something other than “unpaid work” is a distorted view, and part of the problem. No one should work for free unless they are volunteering for charity or something. No one should work for free at a for-profit company, that’s for sure.

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      Six one way half a dozen the other. I mean, it’s not so different as you imply. No conditions are right to exploit this way.

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      When looking back at her own success, going from internship to employment, and eventually landing at Squarespace, Mathur insists “you’ve got to be willing to do whatever it takes” early in your career. “I was willing to work for free, I was willing to work any hours they needed—even on evenings and weekends. I was not focused on traveling,” Mathur concludes. “You really have to just be willing to do anything, any hours, any pay, any type of job—just really remain open.”

      Unpaid internships are basically just a way for rich kids to leverage their parents wealth into a career. The vast majority of people cannot afford to work for “experience”, this is only applicable advice for people whose parents are willing and able to foot the bill.

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        Exactly this. You’re either rich, or you’re working two full-time jobs, which will absolutely wreck the shit out of your mental and physical health in the long run.

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      While I disagree with your comment, I do like that you made it because it presents an opportunity to say that there’s nothing special about unpaid internships that make them more ethical than any other underpaid work. It’s all about the exploitation of people who are in weak positions for the benefit of people in strong positions or setting the requirements for entry such that someone must already be in a strong enough position to survive those requirements. It seems different because it’s been normalized, but “normal” doesn’t equal “good”.

      I’d also say similar about how healthcare workers are treated, though that is more about the ridiculous hours and on call times than pay. And any other profession that has accepted it “needs” to abuse people trying to get in.

      Btw, that “underpaid work” above includes the majority of jobs in the western economy because capitalism itself is all about exploiting the labour of those who don’t own everything they need for survival or participation in the economy. Ironically, the owners themselves are in the same boat, since they don’t own the labour they need for their own participation, but somehow we’ve landed in a situation where most people think that ownership is far more important than time and effort.

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    The peasants in the French revolution were “willing to do anything” as well.

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      There has got to be other measures, such as how much her skin would fetch as a couch, or taking her trappin