As far as I can tell, different faces, but same old, same old… I mean, literally anyone is better than Biden at the job, considering age…

What do dems worry about her?

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    You’re never going to get all Democrats to be satisfied with any candidate, ever. People are going to complain because they love complaining. That said, I think most people are probably fine with her.

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      The phrase is Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

      But I don’t think it’s really all that accurate. It’s more like Republicans fall in line, Democrats come to terms with.

      And we will.

      Also, Biden was not bad at the job. Few had the knowledge of the levers of power to keep shit running with Republican/Sinema/Manchin obstruction.

      But he is four years older, and I hope moving to a different candidate works out. Democrats should love a chance to vote for a totally new candidate who keeps most of the same mildly progressive agenda.

      But I will say if she doesn’t stick with the plan to reform the Supreme Court I will be extremely disappointed.

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        It would be more useful if Biden did the Court thing rather than waiting for Harris to maybe do it if she wins. What if she doesn’t win? What is she wins, but the existing Court does yet more damage between now and then?

        I do agree with you that Biden was a good President. I’ve never seen a President that did all the stuff we wanted, but they’ve always faced opposition and had to make comprises to get anything at all pushed through. I really wanted nationalized health care, but the best Obama could do was Obamacare – which isn’t great, but is sooo much better than the whole ‘pre-existing conditions’ denial system we had before. I really want the U.S. to stop backing Israel because of the Gaza crisis, but I don’t want to see all the surrounding nations to wipe Israel off the map if the U.S. isn’t there. I thought Biden gave a fantastic State of the Union speech. We know it was on a teleprompter, but he delivered with energy and style. I suspect his decline (as with so many other aging people) has been uneven/sporadic, so I can’t even blame anyone for ‘hiding’ his decline because I bet everyone was seeing lots of good days in there, too – at least until the last month or so.

        Off topic: I have a relative going through a sudden decline. She’s been old for a long time, but the last couple months have been a dramatic change for the worse despite no particular health issue. She’s just suddenly much, much older and even her neighbors are commenting to us family. Seeing it in her, I imagine Biden might be going through the same thing.

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          I would go so far as to say that it’s vital that Biden handles court reform, because it has to be done before the election.

          We can already be sure that Trump and his backers are planning legal challenges on whatever grounds might vaguely appear to be something resembling legitimate in the event that he loses, and we can also be sure that at least Thomas and Alito will rule in their favor, no matter how ludicrous their arguments might be, simply because they’re entirely and completely compromised. They’ve already demonstrated that law is irrelevant - that they serve demagoguery, shallow self-interest, bigotry and corruption. And given the chance, they WILL do their parts to destroy democracy in the US.

          We can’t afford to give them the chance.

          And that could be Biden’s legacy - the president who led the efforts that saved America from a fascist coup.

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            What do you think Biden will be able to on court reform without a supermajority in the House and Senate?

            The court reform announcement is entirely an aspirational effort. “Just think what we could do if you get out and vote.”

            I think that, like it or not, the legal landscape today is what we have to contend with this election cycle.

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        He’s a smart guy with all the connections and history with everyone. Great advisor, but not great in front of the camera.

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        Also, Biden was not bad at the job.

        There’s no fucking way he was doing the job in 2024 the same as in 2020. He’s declined way too much.

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    Mostly they’re afraid that swing voters won’t vote for a black woman, but are afraid of saying that out loud.

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      I, for one, hope that she can energize the campaign, get women to the polls and cancel out any negatives.

      I willnlove to see her go against Trump in a debate, but I doubt “grab her by the pussy” Trump will even do one now since he knows he’d get steamroller.

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        I suspect that with what Republicans and the Supreme Court have been doing lately independent women will show up for her in a way they didn’t for Hillary, so at least she has that going for her, but mostly I’m just hoping she doesn’t get any real challengers within the Democratic party. That could go very, very badly, and she is not guaranteed the nomination if it happens. So far so good, but there’s still plenty of time for things to go wrong.

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      Wrong. Gimme a black woman to vote for and I’ll do it.

      I’m pissed because we pissed away the emcumbant advantage but what’s done is done, here’s hoping we get to celebrate the first female president instead of orange Hitler.

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        Congratulations, you aren’t skeptical of Kamala Harris, and therefore aren’t the person I was talking about. Good for you, but you didn’t prove anything wrong.

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        Are you even an actual Democrat who is conflicted about Kamala Harris as the nominee? Because those are the people I’m talking about.

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            I didn’t ask any questions, and I didn’t say or intend to imply that all Democrats are conflicted. They’re clearly not. There have been a huge number of Democrats coming out strongly in favor of her. Why are you making up lies to defend your weird statement?

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    I’ve seen no evidence that they are.

    What little organic commentary I’ve seen has been cautiously optimistic at worst.

    The barrage of anti-Harris stuff that all started appearing at essentially the same time reeks of astroturf.

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    Some don’t consider her progressive enough, some consider her too controversial (eg. non-white, non-male, former prosecutor) to win.

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    I’m confused… why do even Republicans seem conflicted on Donald Trump as a candidate?

    What do repubs worry about him?