A lot of conservatives think trrmp is a traitor, too.
I mean, they should. The evidence provides.
But they usually think he betrayed the extremes of their bigotries rather than the country and general decency.
My father, a lifetime Republican before Trump, and still a rather fiscally conservative man, was actually conflicted on whether or it would have been better or worse if Trump had died on that stage. He openly calls the man a Fascist these days.
Trump may be a Republican, but it’s actually rather generous to call him a Conservative.
It wouldn’t surprise me if someone would think Trump’s death might return us to the Conservatism of the past, but I think that’s flawed. The Republican party has always been on the wrong side of social politics, and there’s no turning back from the stain of fascism on the party.
The Republican party has always been on the wrong side of social politics
I mean, in 1865 they were pretty OK.
As weird as it sounds, I believe keeping trump alive is the best bet to win for the Democrats.
Agreed. Right now trump is a flailing baby. If he was dead they could use him as a symbol and say anything they want.
Yea, he’s definitely a nominal 'pub, but can’t be conservative since he changes his political will constantly.
Twermp is liberally fascist.
Any strategy that will allow him to wield authoritarian power is worthy of pursuit for him.
They also said he was a terrible shot.
I’m not even kidding. He tried out for the school shooting club and they asked him not to come back because they considered his poor shooting and gun handling dangerous.
school shooting club
Maybe they should name it something else…
No, I think that’s an accurate description
LMFAO! I had a feeling he was conservative. It don’t know about a terrible shot, he got damn close but if his school had a shooting club he was probably still better than someone untrained but could still be bad enough not to make the team. Like when I got cut from golf, a no cut sport, half way through the first day
What merit is a person’s political affiliations if they’re mentally ill?
In this context, young men with mental health issues are the exact kinds of people to fall down the alt-right propaganda pipeline that the social media grifters are spewing, most commonly.
In my opinion though, his political affiliation is more important in the sense that it gives the copycat shooters and cultists less justification for the uptick we’ll see in the coming weeks of attempted assassinations, death threats, and mass shootings (especially against democrats and minorities), though that’s never stopped them before.
I’m very glad LGBTQ* Pride was last month.
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Actually, super relevant. It shoots down (pun intended) any attempt to blame this on Dems.
Straight to finger pointing, classic. Yes, let’s figure out what political party the mentally ill child belonged too so we can blame it on that sides politics. Lol
They specifically said it was to refute those claims, not use them as a weapon.
Imagine if his motivation was to prove he had great aim and that they did him wrong. Maybe he just wanted to become the most well known sniper-assassin in the modern world. Maybe that’s the reason he didn’t use scope, he wanted his memory to be that of the rifle maverick. I wonder what went through his head after he realised he missed. I mean, other than a bullet.
He didn’t use a scope?
I’ve heard that “no scope” detail elsewhere too. But would love to confirm it or have it disproven.
It is the detail that I keep coming back to that would indicate something about his state of mind, lack of rationality, lack of time, something.
Nope. He used an ar style rifle and nailed that shot 300 yards away. A fly fart could have been the difference between Trump’s loss of hearing and his loss of brain.
I heard it was shrapnel and not a bullet that got Trump’s ear.
It’s like if Hitler was allowed to become an artist, except it’s a kid wanting to shoot guns.
Do you have a source on the ‘no scope’ detail?
I’m not sure where exactly I’ve read or heard that, sorry. Those past 2 days were very information dense. I’m sure I’ve heard it being referenced a few times though, along with the gun having only iron sights.
Maybe he was aiming at a suspiciously Antifa-looking person in the crowd and missed?
“Those damn Antifas and their damn anti-fascist ways.”
I need the sauce cause that’s hilarious if it’s true.
Thank you CaptianKickass!!
Oh that makes it even funnier holy shit
“It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”
Trump is the Republican candidate, but anyone young enough to actually believes in conservative talking points would not see him as a conservative candidate and would see him as a threat to the party.
That is true of some conservatives, which is obvious due to trumps continued popularity.
Some conservatives see trump as a bad conservative. Many see him as a good or even the best conservative.
If you believe the covid shot was deadly trump signed off on killing millions of people and even if he was tricked that means he’s too dumb to be trusted
Are you saying the gunman believes that or is there something else covid relevant to the topic that I’m missing?
just that it’s one reason a republican could dislike trump
It was a horrible incident and there is no room for violence in politics…
That said, I am relieved to know that the shooter is neither an immigrant nor a person of color, or a trans person. And not someone on the left. The violent backlash from the right would be unbearable/unthinkable otherwise.
But, rifles are an old way of doing things, and predict that there will be more political violence through the next years.
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Buddy not funny. Extra judicially executing your political opponents is the kinda thing trump would pull and we can’t endorse or even approve of it. The state of America today keeps reminding me of the fall of the roman Republic and a fascist dying ain’t gonna fix the problem, it’ll just let someone more cunningly capable of such things into the seat trumps trying to fill and then sh*ts gonna turn fast. What we needs is wide reaching, institutional reform. I just don’t know whose gonna push for it.
When the guy who is at the center of it all corrupted the system that’s supposed to keep him in check you’ve lost a lot of options. Like the old saying goes, if civil unrest isn’t effective the people don’t stop being upset they just stop being civil.
I think you’ve missed the past 10 years - shit’s already totally fucked. It makes zero sense not to fight back against the tyrant of the minority. They should be well aware that they do not have a monopoly on violence.
Suggest you read up on the prisoner’s dilemma.
He’s not just a political opponent, he’s also an authoritarian and a fascist. The won’t be sad when he’s dead, the sooner the better.
You say this like the American right isn’t planning violence ANYWAY. You say this like the Christian Nationalists won’t be violent ANYWAY. Trump dying would change nothing about the course of this nation except one more fascist would be dead.
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Acing Trump is the path to guaranteed violence. People advocating against doing so aren’t just doing so from a moral and/or philosophical standpoint. WWI started with a politician being assassinated.
Edit:ok clowns, downvote the person saying killing a former president is a bad idea. Like several countries aren’t salivating at the idea of the US being embroiled in a civil war. Gee almost like one or more countries even have a vested interest in destabilising the US and have been accused of contributing to it. By all means though don’t let that stop you.
And WW2 might’ve been averted if Hitler had been assassinated 🤷♂️
Let’s make an hypothetical scenario here.
You live before Hitler’s rise to power, and have no ability to see in the future. When would it be justified to take a violent action to change the course of history and to save as many hypothetical lives as possible?
From that perspective, I don’t know if I’d be able to tell and take action without making a terrible mistake and making everything worse, we’re talking about taking a life…
How about when the cunt loses an election and sics an army of degenerates on Congress to overturn that result?
I know this is a hypothetical but Hitler wasn’t some one man force. The nazi party was a very large organisation and without Hitler it could still have come into power in the climate that Hitler catapulted himself to fame on. Killing one man rarely makes such a big difference. The holocaust for example wasn’t even Hitler idea, although he was looking for something like it. My point is don’t assume the future and take things into your own hands because you’re trying to tip the scales before a suspected disaster, I don’t wanna find out who the savvy maverick that can exploit outrage over trumps death to move even more people to support them and without trumps bafooneries and obvious croniesm actually make a much more horrifying impact.
How on earth does this relate to WW1 at all? WW1 started because a Bosnian-Serb assassinated an Austrian duke, and when asked to investigate Serbia told Austria to fuck off. Serbia was a completely separate country to Austria, and was purposefully trying to stir up shit in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
This was a U.S. citizen trying to assassinate a former U.S. president. Nobody else in the world is going to give a shit. We actually do this with startling frequency compared to most other countries.
There wouldn’t be a world war. What are you even saying??? There’s no other nation involved.
Killing the man could potentially save countless lives, avoid a potential civil war at the least and maybe even avoid major international conflicts where the US would actually associate with rogue countries and leaders and leave it’s regular allies.
Europeans are actually working towards a possible scenario where Trump gets elected and stops supporting them in favor of Russia!
If anything, Trump could be the the potential spark to start world war 3!
There’s no other nation involved. Except for those that would benefit from US being in civil war.
How people think killing Trump prevents a civil war instead of acting as the justification a lot of conservatives seems to have been waiting for to initiate one, boggles my mind. Like MAGA and all the alt-right/facist groups behind them just poof vanish or wander off dejected into the sunset. Yeah fucking right.
No, of course they’re not going to disappear. But their leader, the man behind which they really, will be gone. I doubt there will be someone else as charismatic or as famous as Trump that will be able to really the people like he did. Plus there would be infighting within the party to find the new republican candidate.
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I understand. I’m just sick that one side keeps advocating it and using it while the other just takes it and only protests.
It won’t matter though, they’ll still blame the left and say it was a false flag etc. Biden even connected this to the Gaza campus protests.
And not one Republican or prominent journalist will point out that this is mostly due to the decade of rhetoric from the conservatives that political violence is the answer.
First: As conservatives love bible quotes: Hosea 8,7: “They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.” Boy, did Trump sow wind everywhere. And Thomas Crooks simply was the whirlwind this time.
Second: Each and every year, about 50,000 people in the US die from guns, and politics f-ing does not care. Because they love the money from arms manufaturers and votes from the gun nuts more than the mostly innocent people who die. But once the wrong asshole gets his ear nicked by a bullet, they suddenly fall over themselves condemning violence.
I prefer to quote the profit Weir, in Estimations:7, quote “If you plant ice, you’re gonna harvest wind”
Not saying the guy wasn’t, but I’m pretty sure my former classmates would recall me as very conservative, and I changed a lot.
From like 2-3 years ago? My friends from that long ago would not get that info wrong. Former classmates from almost 2 decades ago might get it wrong.
same. once the world starts to roll you, you get better perspectives.
When the years start coming, they don’t stop coming. Kid may not have been the sharpest tool in the shed but he tried to be an all star. He got his game on and went and played.
His brain got smart but his head got dumb
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Hey now… don’t dreeeam iiiiiit’s over
At 20, were you completely different than you were when you were in High School, or are you being generous to yourself because a lot more time has passed?
My money is the kid saw the 2025 agenda and despite being a conservative leaning person was still appalled at the idea people would vote for a fascist again.
My guess is it was the Epstein document releases.
I mean, possibly you’d have to be living under a rock to not have seen all the images of Trump and Epstein together.
But the investigators say he “had no strongly held political beliefs”.
IOW he’s republican and they don’t want to broadcast it?
I’m not sure why Trump-scale neofeudalistic reformist would be called conservative.
Thats just reaganism though.
Yeah. That’s why he tried to assassinate the conservative candidate, right? Trying to associate someone who was mentally broken enough to attempt murder to an entire political bloc is missing the entire point.
You do know that he could have been a conservative that didn’t like trump, right? They do exist. I mean from the 34 felony charges, his links to Epstein, his talking about being a dictator for a day, calling to terminate the constitution a few years back on a truth social post, and his violent rhetoric, there’s a lot of reason for people who identify as conservative (The shooter’s father is libertarian and he very well may have also been libertarian but registered as a Republican in order to vote in the primary) to not like trump.
It wouldn’t be the first time a conservative did something violent for political goals. It won’t be the last.
Do you have any idea how many abortion clinics have been bombed/shot at by conservatives?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/nancy-pelosi-husband-paul-attack/index.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting
https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism
