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    I’m generally a proponent of equal treatment, but when some alt-right hate monger whines about not getting it, I have zero sympathy.

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      I thought it was not that she didn’t know about the wetness (self lubrication), more that she didn’t understand the squirting orgasm, which is what the track is talking about at one point.

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      They obviously do. They’re feigning ignorance and outrage to get views and it’s still working all these years later. It’s click bait and we all fell for it.

      It’s like saying “OMG you’re so happy you’re over the moon? You know AKSCHUALLY it’s impossible to use your legs to achieve escape velocity from the Earth and you’d actually die of asphyxiation because there’s no air in space, I should know my mom works for NASA”

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        So… you’re saying that Ben Shapiro is winning by getting people to believe that he doesn’t know how to sexually satisfy a woman?

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          yes it’s like those fake ads for shitty pay to win mobile games they just need a few whales to win, most people will just think Shapiro is an idiot but once in a while someone will actually think he’s smart and buy his books hit like and subscribe etc

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            You are making no sense. Why would he want most people to think that he is incapable of pleasuring a woman? Why would any heterosexual male want most people to think that?

            I don’t understand why you think the “unable to please women” factor would result in enough signups to be worth humiliating himself like that.

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              It’s not about what he’s trying to be remembered for, it’s just about being remembered. That’s enough: infamy.

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                The claim above was he was doing it to get listeners.

                But I don’t believe either of you.

                I don’t believe that he was getting the world to think that he didn’t know how to pleasure a woman to get listeners and I don’t believe that he was getting the world to think that he didn’t know how to please a woman so he would be remembered (especially when he will be remembered for lots of other reasons).

                Come on, folks. Use some Occam’s razor here. This is Ben Shapiro. He’s a weird, awkward little gnome who cares about no one but himself. He just doesn’t know how to pleasure a woman. He would be far from the only man.

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                  wait you live on the internet where trolls are more common than memes and you don’t believe that someone would intentionally lie to get attention?

                  you think a man who is married genuinely doesn’t know how a vagina works?

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          I mean his whole thing is an act. Like Alex Jones except he hasn’t admitted it yet. Most alt right grifters are.

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    Just give them all the gross, sweaty, smelly sex they think they’re owed for talking to you. That’s how they see it, and they certainly aren’t going to change. If anything, they’ll get worse.

    Or maybe rethink who you’re in bed with.

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      They support it performatively because it gives them clout, and often are dumb enough to follow along. Most of them hate it once they experience it for long enough, though. Look at Lauren Southern suddenly denouncing her “trad partner” having been abusive for years even while she was promoting it.

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        Why I called it a fetish, it really is just people getting weird about playing house until they get tired of it and have to figure out what actually being a homemaking unit with their partner looks like. It’s the sex equivalent of all those Mormon dudes who confessed they wouldn’t have had so many kids if they knew that one day they were gonna be stuck with them all under one roof during the COVID lockdowns.

        Even women actively saying they’re looking for that relationship will probably admit once prodded that they’re only willing to abide that dynamic with a partner who genuinely pulls the other half of the ship and who genuinely respects and shows proper appreciation of the wife’s full time homemaking, y’know, someone who makes them feel like a partner instead of a sex doll with a cooking mode.

        The people who adhere the most to trad-wife lifestyles are probably also the people who’d be the least interested in men who are being sold on the trad-wife fad as the ideal woman.

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          “I was a liberal, now I’m a conservative; she’s a fascist and she’s still a fascist but she’s upset that fascists are being fascist towards HER - do we have anything in common?”

          Spoiler: yes.

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        That was a really interesting read with a lot more expansion and nuance than I expected at first, thanks!

        For those reading it’s a lot more thorough than simply “right wing men beat women” or something. Worth checking out

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          It’s a challenge.

          Southern is still a complex (and, for me, thoroughly unlikable) person with odious views, but it’s an interesting journey if for no other reason than you can see just how powerful a force tribalism is in human psychology; how it lets people get right up to the point of dealing with the incongruity of their tribe versus their safety/well-being/reality.

          The other place I saw this is in watching the flat-Earther documentary Behind the Curve: there’s moments in it when you can see people get within a hair’s breath of rationalization, but get held back not by stupidity, or ignorance, but tribalism.

          We make a big mistake in thinking that the reason people are the way they are because of ignorance or stupidity. That’s not it; they are the way they are because human tribalism has millions of years of success behind it. Up until, oh, the last hundred years or so, ostracism meant real death, so our monkey brains, though millions of years of selection, developed group cohesion and social strategies to help us stay within our in-group. Unfortunately, in the last century or so, that tribal instinct is proving maladaptive.

          It’s a little like how we’re evolved to process sugar, which has hundreds of millions of positive evolutionary enforcement, only to fail at the outside-context problem that is McDonalds & Coca Cola.

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            I’m actually very much of the same mindset as you. For instance, I often frame QAnon folks, particularly those who are not on YouTube profiting, as victims. Something is wrong in their life and a bad person sold them incorrect solution, but a solution all the same.

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              A problem for the people in politics and on social media who are profiting off it without believing in it is that, eventually, either Hamlet syndrome kicks in and you start believing it, or the fascist followers you’ve been yoking get out of control and you need to start doing actual Nazi stuff to save your own skin.

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        She [Southern] hopes that in speaking out she can reassure “all of these women who are thinking in their heads: I’m uniquely terrible, and I’m uniquely making a mistake” that no: something is more generally amiss.

        There’s nothing unique about it, and the problem is indeed more general. If I had to sum it up in one word, I’d say empathy. The alt-right lacks empathy. Expecting empathy from an alt-right husband just isn’t realistic.

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        Oh this is from 7 years ago lol I saw this post and thought “didn’t we already kind of establish this in the media a while back?”