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People used to use trucks for hauling. Now they are $70k+ status symbols for people who need to scream, “I am insecure.”
I don’t get why people think an ugly looking vehicle is a status symbol. To most, it symbolizes something completely different.
“my penis is microscopic, now get out of the way”
I saw some truck commercial yesterday where the thing was eighty thousand dollars AFTER all incentives and rebates.
I thought to myself that the people who are screaming about inflation and how the Democrat president is ruining their lives are the same people who are lining up to make crazy monthly payments into a vehicle that will immediately be upside down on the note.
This may surprise you, but cars can cost much more than that price. So what’s your point?
I’m confused as to what your point is
He’s been shitting over this entire thread so hard I’m concerned about burst hemorrhoids. Some weird combo of herp derp Americans bad, big vehicles good. All of it nonsensical.
Guy is saying truck can be expensive, so can cars. So what’s their point?
Mine was quite obvious, it was literally spelt out?
Completely baseless assumption, but I think it’s just a continuation of the phenomenon when toddlers get hyped for trucks/tractors/combine harvesters/anything that is big and loud, maybe because it’s associated with power, I don’t know. Some people just stay at this toddler’s mentality and they see everything that’s big and/or loud as something you can boast about. See also: loud exhausts, 6400 deciBel motorcycle sounds, etc.
Fair. They should just get a job with machine builders. I get paid money to play with power all day. Why hello chemical processing equipment, I see you pull 180amps at 460V. Now let’s see how loud you are when I push start.
If you havent made an entire factory lights dim are you even alive?
These trucks are also a very American thing. Rarely see that anywhere in Europe. Lots of toxic masculinity in the US
We are getting there though. SUVs are already the standard and it’s getting worse. Imo SUVs are even worse in some respects. There at least are theoretical use cases for a pickup truck, a SUV is always egotistical bullshit.
I legitimately had a neighbor tell me “this is a truck neighborhood.” In a “joking, not joking” sort of situation.
I hope you called him an oxymoron
you could buy THREE penis enlargements for that price
What sucks is you can’t even buy a truck like the second from the left anymore. I mean, you can buy a used one from a few decades ago, but nobody makes small utility trucks like the old Rangers. The new Ranger is basically just an old F150 (maybe even F250).
The Maverick seems like a reasonable size to me, but by the time I need to replace another car, I’m sure its size will have inflated beyond what I want.
Reasonable footprint, but still a very short bed and 4 door cab. Don’t get me wrong, I like the Maverick and expect to buy a 5 year old model in 5 years, but that’s because I’ll probably still be neck deep in home projects while still trying to commute. It does have great features in the bed and is known to have perfectly acceptable capability hauling full 4x8 sheets with the tailgate tilt. But most of the market is locked away in fullsize crew cabs with 6ft beds at best. 8ft beds typically require utility trims, so you can’t get a smaller-footprint nice pickup with full capacity.
I’ve had a 99 ranger regular cab 7ft bed for about 2 months. It works great for me, but I can barely get a nicer home reno/commuter vehicle. I can go 10 years newer, but not much nicer comparatively speaking from 2024.
I’m sure its size will have inflated beyond what I want.
I have the same problem with phones.
I assume there’s some kind of growth formula I’m supposed to have learned about and started taking, but I don’t go to the right parties. /sarcasm
They exist but the US seems intent on keeping out.
I know, right?! I can go across the border and buy one in Mexico, but I can’t buy one here. It’s infuriating!
You can’t buy one because it has never existed, no truck ever had a 40/60 cab to bed ratio except for custom jobs made from using the front of a van with a truck bed.
Cab over engine trucks have existed for a very long time and have models that would absolutely have ~60% of their foot print be bed
CoE pickups haven’t been a thing outside of commercial vehicles for decades, hell, the VW vanagon might have been the last one in the 80s for the North American market…
Look at the original post, none of them are CoE.
I responded to your comment that said they have never been a thing. never.
Which was a reply to someone saying they want something like the second one from the left, which is an engine forward truck with 60% bed, which has never existed.
A Jeep FC-170 was 60% bed, but that’s like saying “Just get a Hino and have someone make a bed for it and daily drive it”.
The only thing that’s higher than 60% and that could still be considered a non commercial offering is a VW Bus Transporter at 61% bed since the nose is flatter (engine at the back) but it still doesn’t match “the second from the left” as asked by that other person.
I don’t know where they found the 64% bed truck and outside of commercial offerings (so it doesn’t have to meet regular safety standards) there’s no way to get a modern version of a truck with 60% bed unless it has a ridiculously long bed.
I never contradicted any of this, I don’t know of a modern one. You said they never existed… They did.
They didn’t, no engine forward truck ever had a 40/60 ratio cab to bed.
I love my 09 ranger, one of the last years before they scrapped it and went with the Goliath model.
Honestly don’t see the appeal to the huge trucks unless they’re for work, but it’s not surprising that automakers in North America don’t really care to offer what consumers actually want to drive.
Every time I think about the kind of car I want the next time I need to replace mine I am reminded that I miss my old 1994 Chevy S10, and options for something like that these days is rather limited.
I really miss my tiny 1986 Toyota Corolla. My 2016 Prius is not supposed to be a big car and yet it is still bigger than that Corolla. Both sedans. If anything, the Prius should be smaller because it’s a hatchback and those used to be the smaller cars.
At the time, the Corolla didn’t feel small either. Every car is too big now except maybe Minis and Fiats.
My imaginary dream car would be an EV Nash Metropolitan. It’s got 2 doors, a front and a back seat and a decent-sized trunk. I don’t haul stuff, there’s only three people in my family, I really don’t need anything else.
Small cars have poor crash test ratings, and the ratings are much stricter than they used to be. That’s why you can’t really find small cars any more.
Except, like I said, there are Minis and Fiats. And, of course, all the small cars in practically every other country on the planet. If Fiat can sell the 500 in the U.S., any U.S. company could sell a similar small car.
Doesn’t meet standards dude, wheter it’s crash rating or fuel economy, bumper height or whatever.
They aren’t here since they can’t sell them, but claim It’s possible I guess? It’s weird you think they just aren’t selling them because they don’t want to….
Yet again, there are Minis and Fiats sold legally in the U.S.
Do you think the Fiat 500 is a big car or something? There are smaller cars, but it’s not exactly an SUV.
And then there is the Smart FourTwo. I don’t believe they are selling new models in the U.S. anymore, but they were not very long ago- 2019. I seriously doubt safety standards have changed so much since 2019 that they can’t sell newer models. Daimler doesn’t sell them.
Please look at the crash test ratings of the smarts before claiming they are safe….
I didn’t say they were safe. I have no idea how safe they are. You claimed they can’t sell small cars in the U.S. because of safety standards. I have literally told you about three small cars which are (or were recently in the case of the Smart FourTwo) being sold in the U.S.
I’m not sure why you won’t acknowledge that fact, but it’s still a fact.
If I had the money, I could go out right now and buy a brand new 2024 Fiat 500 legally from a legal Fiat dealer right here in Indiana.
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I looked for a small truck several years ago and nobody makes one any more. I did see an S10 on the road a few days ago though, which I thought was neat.
Limited in the sense that there’s literally no equivalent available today.
I just want a reasonably sized two door electric truck with a decent sized bed and only minimal space taken up by the frunk. I haul enough stuff that I could really use the cargo space, but I don’t want to drive an aircraft carrier on wheels that doesn’t fit into parking spaces. And I don’t want it collecting as much data as possible on me, but that’s not just a truck thing.
So, my options are basically leave the country, drive a 30+ year old ICE truck, or start my own car company. Because despite the fact that there is clearly demand for a smaller truck that’s actually a truck, no one is interested in making them for the US market. Not when you can make a big useless luxury truck that has a much larger profit margin.
Get a Ford Econoline pickup and an electric conversion kit. No frunk at all!
Your legs are the crumple zone!
I want a reasonably sized 4x4 truck with a good sized bed that can fit a side by side two snowmobile hydraulic ramp. No such thing in EV or ICE AFAIK.
Have you seen this? the equivalent of 14,000 USD new and the bed is as big as many full size pickups.
Ford E-transit with a bed, you can get one made, that’s what they’re meant for with the cab+frame option.
I’ll just wait for your next excuse now.
Well, for starters, it’s over 50 grand for the base vehicle, and that’s before adding the bed. And it’s bigger than what I’m looking for.
What I want is something more like an electric version of the Ford Maverick, but one that adds to the bed length by switching to a regular or extended cab, and by moving the cab forward a bit since we no longer need to accommodate an engine. I want different proportions, but the same basic size and price (obviously making it electric likely comes with a price increase, but that shouldn’t be enough to double it).
I mean, it makes sense to me.
I know there’s a lot of hate for pickup trucks, but they are useful. Not useful all the time, unless you use it for work, but that can be said for many things that we own. Obviously, most people don’t use trucks for work, so they increasingly want more people-space and less (but not necessarily zero) cargo-space.
Cars and trucks in general are a problem, and the trend of increasing size of certain trucks is a problem, but imo if someone wants an SUV with a spot in the back to carry a Christmas tree or whatever, I don’t see anything particularly wrong with that.
I really wish two seat utility vehicle format in the spirit of the El Camino would be a thing again. Basically a station wagon size, but with an open bed. These could easily have bed covers in the same shape as a wagon as well, but removable to allow for taller items and a bed that can be hosed out.
The market shifting all in to four door cabs sucks.
I wonder how hard it would be to modify a Hearse into an open bed?
An angle grinder and a week of free time
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is pretty close. Wish they made it electric.
It is a four door and not significantly smaller than other compact pickups like a Maverick or Ridgeline.
Oh I thought they had two doors. Must have been a concept that I saw.
While I agree with the sentiment, it is still annoying when they take up 2 parking spaces. They are just bad cars for cities and work better on rural areas.
That’s a matter of truck size, not cab-to-bed ratio, which is what this meme is about.
Trucks with smaller beds are objectively less useful than trucks with larger beds.
Only for hauling large amounts of cargo. There are other measures of usefulness.
Going by that logic a heavy truck is even better. And a train better yet again. Oh and cargo ships…
they don’t make em like they used to
good thing too, but those were fun to driveThis doesn’t belong in the humor community because it’s seriously depressing.
Black people couldn’t vote in 1961 so maybe it’s not so bad after all.
black people voting was what ruined modern vehicles!
/s obviously.
Bed to car ratio looks like it’s 3/5
3/5s car law when btw
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No, just maybe that your bugaboos becoming more prominent isn’t actually a sign our society is in decline
that would be why the /s goes at the end :)
Oh duh :P
Oops got called out for implying things were better 60 years ago for everyone. Better strawman him.
oopsie daisies, how could i accidentally commit a racism! Silly me, it just freudian slips sometimes!
It wasn’t me I swear!
I’d like to see a similar infographic of the height of the truck beds. Putting a tiny bed way up high is a sure sign the bed is ornamental.
I guess proving (again) so many pick up truck owners do not really need a pick up, they just need to feel manly for a change
My dream car was a Subaru Baja. Failing that, it’s now either a Ford Maverick or a Honda Ridgeline. Those are the closest I can find to the “ute” style I’m looking for, just by virtue of having a 4 door cabin and a small bed.
My friend bought a Baja. He said that the bed is so small that he can’t even fit a bike in there.
Tell your friend to ride smaller bikes
The problem with this infographic is that they aren’t depicting the size of the trucks in proportion. That 37%er is probably 3x as large as the 64%er (the whole truck itself)
Bed size is measured in feet. There’s never been a light-duty truck with more than an 8’ box, which is probably what the first one depicts. The last one might be a 5’ box but way more 6’ boxes get sold. So yah, they’re smaller, but they sure as hell aren’t half the size. Putting it terms of overall length is disengenuous at best.
I have an 8’ box because I want a toolbox and still be able to get a lot of undesirable stuff in the box besides. I wouldn’t have a shortbox.
The depictions are actually wrong as there’s never been a 60+% bed truck that wasn’t a cab over.
Really should be comparing the volume of pickup bed, not just the % of its total length
The volume could definitely be higher now, since the box sides are so bloody high that you can’t actually put anything in the truck without a ladder.
As a farmer and actual truck user everyone I know has a beat up farm truck from the 80s for actual truck use, modern truck is just a big car for comfortable city trips
The problem with the big truck for city trips is that the city usually has small parking spots lol
Yeah, let’s compare different types of truck so we can complain about them
Always the same shit with you guys
A current gen regular cab long box F150 (you know, the same thing as the first one in the picture) measures 228" so 42% bed.
A 1995 F150 regular cab long box was 213" long, so 45% bed.
1983? 208" long.
1975 (first generation)? 205", 47% bed
And you know what, just for the heck of it, the 60s F100 was 202" long, that’s 47.5% bed! The only way you got it to 50% bed was without a rear bumper and that was 50% on the dot, I don’t know where they got their first truck but as far as I can find it’s never existed!
Inline 6 were the smaller engine back in the day for trucks, no way they could make the hood super short.
Trucks, especially full sized ones haven’t changed in size that much, they’re mostly taller so it makes them seem much bigger than they were, the rest is mostly so they’re actually safer than the thin boxes of the past.
wait until you see a cab-over design
