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      Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. 💪

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        I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!

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            I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it’s pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you’re being pedantic.

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              Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.

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                Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on

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        To be fair, most of what I’ve seen of Chinese cuisine looks like dog yack, so I think we got the better end of the deal.

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          Real, eaten-in-China Chinese food is amazing. Highly regional, though, so you may love one region’s cuisine and not another’s. Some of the best food on earth for sure, though.

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      Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as “Italian ice cream”.

      What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.

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      You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.

      Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.

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    I don’t know any European that would only eat a slice of pizza instead of the whole thing.

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      The only time an European eats a single slice of pizza is the next morning after they have overestimated their ability to devour the entire thing.

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      I’m on my way home from Amsterdam atm, a slice of pizza was €10.

      I skipped that and left hungry, because i’m buying two pizza’s and a big bottle of coke when i get home in about an hour.

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        Damn, you can get an entire large pizza for $10 at Costco. Granted, your only options are pepperoni or cheese, and the quality isn’t the best (far from the worst, though), but it’ll feed 1-3 people.

        Still, I miss the days when you could a large pizza with unlimited toppings at various chain restaurants for $10. But that was over 10 years ago.

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          You only need to be a cosco member and hopefully not have any previous experience with pizza

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          Domino’s still regularly has €5 pizza’s on monday for pickup, at my old job during the late shift we had €17 per person to spend on food and 2 people in the shift.

          We used to order 2 family xxl with their thursday 50% off for second pizza and a regular sized cheeseburger pizza+ drinks for that €34.

          We both ate half our xxl and shared the regular size one, the remainder came home to feed our wives while the company covered the cost.

          They even paid us a pretty decent wage too, but unfortunately the head office decided to build a new automated warehouse right when covid started that ended up only doing 30% productivity and they closed us down as a result.

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          A large Costco pizza will feed way more than 1-3. I’m not even trying to act like bird food eater here. I’m 225lbs and 6’2” so I know how to eat.

          That said, I absolutely love Costco pizza and my safe zone is like 2 slices because they are enormous.

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      Yes, but you’re forgetting that’s just a light snack to stop them from starving to death on the way home.

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      I also don’t know any Italian who eats their Pizza by slicing it up, folding the slice, and shoving it into their mouthes, instead of with knife and fork, like a civilized person.

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      That slice comes from a pie almost half a meter in diameter. That single slice has the surface area of most European pizzas.

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          I live in Germany.

          You underestimate these Costco pizzas. On the 1600 square centimeters, they pile half a kilo of cheese

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    It could kill a European, if consumed by a European. However, it is consumed by an American, so it kills an American.

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    I once went to a Polish restaurant and the starter was pork fat on toast.

    And a hazelnut vodka.

    There are many ways for a heart to implode.

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      Pork fat is less processed product and certainly more healthy. America isn’t actually great at much but one thing we do have is the least healthy food to ever exist.

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        Truth. Heart disease wasn’t nearly as prevalent back when we cooked everything with lard. And then Crisco came along, started producing that overprocessed “vegetable oil” garbage, marketed it (and continue to market it) as “healthy”, and people actually fell for their BS. Hell, judging by the amount of downvotes you got, half the public still believes this lie.

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          A lot of this is because people had to do a lot more exercise during the day than we do now. Not that the lard was better for us. This is where a lot of the downvotes come from. Even the rich had to do a lot more walking. If we could return to the amount of exercise we averaged 50+ years ago, you would see a lot of this decline. The next big thing is the amount we eat. We consume significantly more calories now than we used to. In the past 100 years it has increased ~20%. All the while we have been doing less physically. The third big factor is where the shitty food comes in. Having sugar/highly refined carbs added to just about everything promotes over-eating, while also fucking with your insulin production, and other endocrine issues, that promote fat retention, while also increasing addictive eating disorder likelihood.

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          High super consumption has much more impact on heart health than fats as well.

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        Better than bacon. And I know those are fighting words in some places. Just embrace the schmaltz and let it drip into the rice.

        The key is to get to that skin while it’s still hot, but before it winds up in the fridge. You can reconstitute it in a skillet, like bacon, but it’s just not the same.

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      Polish hazelnut booze is awful. Granted I only know Solpica, but one shot tastes the whole day and maybe longer.

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    As an European, I cannot comprehend the width of that centre console. 2 drinks side-by-side AND some extra? Must be a full eagle screech wtf is a kilometer V8 mortr truck.

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      When I was a kid, I remember being impressed that my dad’s Dodge Ram could fit an entire laptop in the center console, horizontally.

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      In some cases it’s actually 3 drinks side by side…

      Generally the center consoles of full sized trucks and SUVs is as large as it is because people on construction sites wanted a file cabinet holder center console. So it can hold an 8.5 x 11 or A4 sized paper horizontally in the center with a holder.

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      That be a truck, the center console can be flipped up to have a central seat in trucks where the shifter is on the steering column or besides the radio (dial in Ram trucks).

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      Fun fact:

      It’s “a European” since the pronunciation starts with “ˌjʊ”. Similar thing with “university”.

      I’m not trying to be a dick but to spread information.

      Ok, that’s all. Thank you for reading :)

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    Italians will cook your pasta inside a whole wheel of cheese. Spaniards deep fry pork belly and serve it as a snack. Last time I was in Eastern Europe I thought something was a sweet only to discover it was a lump of straight-up pork fat. Just raw. To munch on.

    Americans may be more consistent at eating gross murderfood regularly and in large quantities, but they sure aren’t the only ones to have it.

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      The big difference is in the details.

      Italians dont cook your pasta in that wheel. They throw it in there and shove it around. Its no comparison to that center console by any stretch. The countries that munch on raw fat are usually freezing cold and very rough in terms of manual labor conditions. People burn through double the amount of calories or more if they have heavy manual labor and cold climate.

      Maybe not the spaniards though. ;)

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          Oh god… I can feel it, I can feel the East Germans commenting “that’s a Jägerschnitzel” and then the flame war with the Austrians kicks off.

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            Speaking of schnitzel, I was once in a very much European (but not German or Austrian) snitzel place and got served a schnitzel as the base of what seemed to be a pepperoni pizza topping.

            You could also get it rolled up like a kebab with the cheese on the inside to eat on the go. I wish I had pictures, it’s simultaneously the worst and best thing I’ve put in my mouth.

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    I live in Scotland, our chip shops do deep fried battered pizza. Get on our levels.

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      They probably have that at a state fair here in the US. They deep fry everything there, even Oreos.

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      I’m ever astonished at the variety of deep fried stuff at Appalachian festivals and fairs. All these stalls trying to one-up the rest with the lengths they are willing to go into hot fat depravity. Grease-boiled confections and savories of every niche. A healthcare nightmare. But this is a region steeped in despair. It’s tough to heap blame on folks giving up.

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      Fuck you now I’m craving a half pizza supper and a deep fried mars bar but the nearest proper chippy is thousands of miles away back home in scotland 😭

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      Or a piece an’ Macaroni Pie. Carb in Carb in Carb. I’m sure you could get the pie battered too in the right chip shop.

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        If you eat a battered macaroni pie in a roll and down it with Irn Bru, Highland Cathedral will start playing out of nowhere.

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      I (an American) had actually never heard of Costco until I moved to Japan. Where I grew up we had Sam’s Club, but no Costco, so when I got to Japan and the other foreigners were talking about how they love getting the chance to go down to Costco, I had no idea what they were talking about.

      Didn’t see a Costco in person until a few years later.

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      Similar, perhaps. I enjoyed visiting Costco in England and devouring jacket (baked) potatoes with Heinz baked beans (I’m aware this is Lemmy…), Shepherd’s Pie and a hot cup of Yorkshire Tea - so the menu is localised too.

      I don’t remember if they also had the typical American fare when I was there, because I was more interested in the British cuisine I had missed so much. They may have had the froyo and hotdogs. Im certain there must have been pizza, surely.

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    I remember buying a coke in america for the first time and the whole family sharing it lol. The crazy shit we ate in america became our family inside joke.

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          EUROPEAN (adjective) Belonging to or relating to Europe or its people.

          That cheese got in your head.

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          Didn’t your cheese production become too clean to produce the legendary holes?

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            Most of our cheeses never had holes. The ones that did still have them. You should have a look at our famous (although not the best in my opinion) Emmental if you like a cheese with holes (or should I call it holy cheese?!)

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          Hmm that’s like the Indian reservations in Canada and the USA. Never thought about that before. Are they considered to be in Canada/usa? I’m pretty based off of watching Yellowstone that they get passports… anyway now I’m just rambling

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            Its not really like that at all. Switzerland is very much part of Europe and shares European culture and history with the rest of us. That person is just a little bit confused.

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      Fondue, with a starter plate of cured meats and a desert of meringue covered in double cream.

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          Oh and for those thinking this is too much, some even throw in an egg into the cauldron once the melted cheese is gone.

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    My Costco has an 810 calorie chocolate chip cookie. When I first saw that I was like how tf do you cram the better part of 1000 calories into ONE cookie lol

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      Science! That feels like those extremely strong nicotine pouches, it’s just too much of the good stuff crammed into one small thing.

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      Fat is the most calorie-dense food available. So that’s one big piece of butter mixed with sugar, some flour, aromas, and cacao fat.

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        Yeah if you’ve ever made your own sugar cookies, you start them by taking a warm stick of butter and folding in several cups of sugar.