wow this is very good news. I always feared that at some point some billionaire ass will buy Proton. That will be impossible now.
“that will be impossible now”
Life uh… Finds a way.
Example:
openclosedAI
Proton’s mission has always been unique. Most companies are created to be sold, and they achieve that by placing profit above all other considerations. For most businesses providing “services” to the masses, the easiest way to profit has been to misuse user data and engage in surveillance capitalism to the detriment of society and democracy. At Proton, we have intentionally taken a different path to achieve a more difficult mission. We want to remake the internet in a way that is private by default and serves the interests of all of society, not just the interests of a few Silicon Valley tech giants. In short, we want to create an internet that is able and willing to defend freedom, no matter the cost.
They pulled the opposite of the enshitification, haha.
Positification ftw
That’s a much better opposite than envomitification.
Or enemisation/suppositorisation
Unshittification.
Andy is my hero. He wanted to create an ecosystem to rival Microsoft and Google, without their bullshit.
Since conception, his mission statement was to work for the people who supported Proton’s dream, and now he’s ensuring that dream doesn’t get fucked with by people with bad incentives.
LEGEND
Most companies try to earn community trust through words but proton put it all out on the table.
As their customer, I’m extremely happy to hear that.
This is amazing news. I’ve been thinking about switching to Proton for a while now. Think this may just be the drop that makes me do it.
Swapped to their mail from Google finally about a year ago, it was a pain in the ass, but have been slowly removing myself from the google ecosystem.
Exactly the same here. It’s not perfect… it’s slow, it doesn’t work with your mobile mail client… but it’s better than the supervillain levels of evil that Google is pushing out.
Mobile mail client? Why not use the Proton Mail app?
because you can’t add non-proton email accounts
Ah I guess I didn’t think of that use case, it being the Proton app. I think I read somewhere it’s possible with the Windows client, through their Bridge software. I haven’t had the need to use the Proton client for other email accounts personally.
Wow. 👏👏👏
Heartening news. I look forward to Proton’s future.
🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇🎆🎇!!!
What Mozilla should’ve been.
An organisation with products people want to pay for. Instead they ended up as a shill for Google with a CEO more concerned about her paycheck than actually making good products 😞
You mean 3-4 million for a non profit CEO are too much?
Think about her constant worrying about users not donating enough for her goal of constant raises without offering any actual value…
If we all donate 20% of our monthly salary to Mozilla by the next year she could reach 5m.
The comments here and technology community on lemmy.ml vs the ones that on the technology at lemmy.world thread sure were an interesting contrast when it was first posted…
But anyways, this is great news.
If they enable IMAP for all accounts that’d be awesome. I’ve been reluctant to use their mail system in case it just becomes another lock-in.
Yes, not being enable to integrate with the system both Linux and Android is what is bothering me the most.
But isn’t this exactly what the Protonmail bridge is for? I don’t use Proton myself (self-hosted Mailcow) but afaik Imap doesn’t support public keys/PGP the way Proton is using it, hence one needs the bridge to use normal Imap clients like Thunderbird.
Sure, but this is only for mail, not even calendar. Also, they do not push on flatpak which limits availability.
Contacts cannot be synced on Android. Drive is nonexistent on Linux and I do not think it is a work in progress project yet. Drive cannot sync folders on Android either.
These are basic features…
Well, It wold be reassuring if they would say at least “sorry” for giving IP address of eco-activists to the french intelligence. If only they earn money, but they did it for free. It’s an improvement, but it’s still not enough
They were legally obligated to. There is so much misinformation surrounding that “controversy.”
They choose to comply with the law. Other provider of service choose to not to. I would be okay if their main argument wouldn’t be privacy, but it is.
I’m out of the loop, can you please explain or link to a source?
https://proton.me/blog/climate-activist-arrest
Long story short: Proton got ordered to give the IP by a court and they will not go to jail for you. Surprise.
Even more key, they explicitly tell you to use the VPN and/or Tor if you really need anonymity!
Thanks a lot.
I don’t know if this would be a good idea.
Sometimes it’s good to run things for a profit, that way there’s extra in case something needs to be upgraded
We can all tell you didn’t read the article.
Non-profit doesn’t mean you don’t make money, just that the money you do make doesn’t go to shareholders but instead back into the company
