- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
cross-posted from: https://lazysoci.al/post/14579120
YouTube is currently experimenting with server-side ad injection. This means that the ad is being added directly into the video stream.
This breaks sponsorblock since now all timestamps are offset by the ad times.
For now, I set up the server to detect when someone is submitting from a browser with this happening and rejecting the submission to prevent the database from getting filled with incorrect submissions.
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Literally just make ads less obnoxious, and/or make YouTube premium not stupidly expensive. That’s all you fuckin have to do, YouTube, and you can cut a huge portion of the cat and mouse game.
Absolutely. If premium was 7 bucks a month I would subscribe today, but 14 a month is insane!
There was a premium lite for 7 bucks but they discontinued it in October as part of their ‘fuck all yall’ campaign
All they’d have to do for me to buy premium is make a plan without YT music that costs less. It’s not that hard. I will never use YT music, and that has nothing to do with the quality of the service or whatever - I’m not interested in music streaming services at all.
according to their bean counters its probably cheaper for them to do the cat and mouse game. they wouldnt be doing it like this otherwise.
As much as I don’t want to believe it, it must be true. I guess development is cheap enough when you have foreign countries doing it for you
In that thread, the sponsorblock official account posted:
the ui needs to change to include ad links, so the data for when ads happen should still be retrievable somewhere in the page. Then just a bit of math
So hopefully, there will still be a method for sponsorblock to continue working.
Matter of time, good while it lasted
If that happens then I swear to fucking God I’m done with YouTube forever.
Edit: i.e. if it breaks FreeTube, Invidious, Sponsorblock, etc. (because I’m already done with the main site forever) then I’m out. If the choice is between content vs no ads, I’ll take no ads even if it means no content.
I’m guessing that alternative front ends (piped, FreeTube, whatever) don’t give YouTube the same metrics they would get if I was using YouTube directly? I will continue to deny them the data they so desire.
I bet the majority will continue watching YouTube and accept the ads. But I do wonder if yt-dlp and other downloaders will still cut into their ad revenue. All those injected add won’t ever be clicked on, or the clients will change to automatically click them thus rendering the ads meaningless.
I’ve checked the Github when I read this to see whether they’re having trouble as well, and currently it appears that YouTube will block your IP if you use it too much
It’ll probably be done with an overlay/prompt for the user to click on (Unless the advertiser is paying for exposure and not direct traffic idk). But such a popup would provide a hook for a patched version of yt-dl to detect the ad and trim it out of the final video.
Also, shouldn’t a forum signature at all should be enough to screw with AI scrapers? No need to link to anything specific
Damn, also would break ublock I assume?
I am expecting that is exactly the point. I don’t think they’ll win, tho. We’ll find a way around it.
uBlock might be out at some point, but modified APKs will probably live forever.
Pirates, aaargh… always finds a way.
uBO is all kinds of broken for multiple people right now. It’s a constant cat and mouse game, but YouTube seems to be winning for now.
uBlock Origin works fine for me on youtube. Just make sure you keep it updated and don’t run multiple blockers.
I’ve noticed pretty much zero disruption on Firefox with uBlock Origin and SponsorBlock despite Google’s best efforts. Every time I thought I’d eventually be paying Google the Danegeld to avoid the firehose of spam I’ve been pleasantly surprised.
This could honestly be really good for Nebula.
Is Nebula federated?
Nah, it’s a subscription service, but it’s got a few notable YouTubers and they tend to drop extra content there. PhilosophyTube is on there, 12Tone, a bunch of people. As a platform it’s a lot less bullshit, but it’s also obviously less content.
Though now I realize you actually have to get referred by one of the other members in order to start posting, so I’m not really sure they stand to benefit that much. It kind of explains why the content has been lacking. It certainly won’t ever have the diversity of content that YouTube has with that approach.
Honestly learning that it’s more of a market stall than a garden makes me less enthusiastic. It’s there to curate what’s already on YouTube without YouTube’s limitations, not to create a better alternative that’s actually sustainable.
Though now I realize you actually have to get referred by one of the other members in order to start posting
That is done with the intention of keeping the quality of content high.
I doubt they want to get flooded with low effort “let’s play” gamers or even lower effort AI voiceover stock footage crap.
It also doesn’t have an algorithm, which would make it difficult to find content you want when there are loads of creators
Haha, reading this was like a journey. You can see your disillusion growing with every sentence.
I live in a region that has decently low YouTube premium pricing. If it’s ads or nothing, I may get a subscription. But I haven’t checked pricing in a while, so maybe it’s gone up too much.
I wonder how would that affect yt-dlp
I live in a region that has decently low YouTube premium pricing. If it’s ads or nothing, I may get a subscription. But I haven’t checked pricing in a while, so maybe it’s gone up too much.
