• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    That’s just a spot on analysis.

    There are no Republicans that will vote for Joe Biden.

    There are voters who will vote Joe Biden if he moves to go get them.

    This isn’t complicated.

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      It’s just flabbergasting because Obama had an incredibly strong showing in 08 largely because of the youth vote… and nobody at the DNC is willing to admit that, because the youth vote is far too progressive these days.

      That’s a shot at the DNC, not the 18-25 demographic.

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      This has been a constant issue with Democrats. For some reason they want to cater to right leaning (white) America instead of courting groups that legit win them elections in the first place (young, Latino, and black).

      It’s how Obama and Biden won in the first place

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        I assume because the youth aren’t lining their pockets

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      There were enough Republicans who voted for Biden in '20 to flip Georgia, which is solidly “mainstream” Republican (e.g. Reagan Republicans).

      The article’s analysis of why Hillary lost is correct, and the diagnosis of the failures of Clintonism is also correct. They fail to point out that Clinton “won” '92 because Perot pulled away enough Bush votes in enough states to swing the Electoral College to Clinton, who only got 40% of the popular vote. That “victory” somehow convinced a bunch of Democrats that conservatism without bigotry (or at least less) was the key to electoral success. Clinton got reelected with the power of incumbency and BobDole being a fairly weak candidate. That cemented the conservatism lite in the Democratic Party for a generation, many of whom are still in the party.

      It’s changing though. Biden is not a classic conservative Democrat anymore, or at least his team and policies aren’t.

      One big thing they need to do is acknowledge that the system is rigged against the non wealthy, and that small-d democracy as it exists today in America is not up to the task of helping the non wealthy. Then they need to propose ways to fix our broken democracy, ask young people for suggestions for how to fix it, and write some binding policy proposals to implement those fixes.

      Because right now Trump and the Republicans are acknowledging that our democracy is failing non wealthy (straight white Christian) people, and the solution they’re offering is to do away with it entirely in favor of Hungarian or Russian style authoritarianism.

      The first part of that message will resonate, and the “help us fix democracy” part needs to be the 2nd half. Or Trump probably will get reelected.

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        I think what you meant to say was, that demographics of typically non-voting, but potentially Democrat voters, were activated in 2020, to flip GA.

        No Republicans flipped to make GA go blue. It was massive turn out from black and youth voters.

        The idea that Republicans do ‘flip’ or will ever ‘flip’ is a damaging fiction.

        https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/georgia-demographic-shift-vote-democrat-republican-1.5794314

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        I broadly agree with your comment and wanted to add this since it’s a common misconception: Georgia is a purple state with a suppressed vote, not a red state. In addition to gerrymandering and frequent voter roll purges, people in urban areas commonly wait hours in line to vote in fewer polling stations than existed in previous years. And that’s not even taking into account things like criminalizing handing out water to people waiting to vote in line.

        There are probably worse states to try to vote, but I wouldn’t think there are that many.

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          There are probably worse states to try to vote, but I wouldn’t think there are that many.

          i don’t know how many but i do know that texas and arizona by living and trying to vote in them; i also florida is another and that’s 2 out of the 4 biggest electoral college states.

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        and the solution they’re offering is to do away with it entirely in favor of Hungarian or Russian style authoritarianism.

        Where do you get this from?