• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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      Supporting Joe Biden means you support Israels actions in Palestine.

      Literally the only leverage you have in this system is your vote. If you give it freely without strings, this is what you get.

      In 2020, Biden had to come get Bernie supporters; the progressive vote. The result was the singularly most progressive campaign a Democratic nominee has ever had and subsequently the most progressive president (in terms of policy) that we’ve seen since Jimmy Carter: Biden did not get there on his own. He was dragged there because 2016 showed you can-not get elected as a Democrat without the support of progressives. Its quite simple: you can’t influence a candidate if you don’t withhold your consent. Team blue-no-matter consents to the extermination of the Palestinian people.

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        Yep completely agree he’s jumped the shark here. As a non-jewish American I don’t get the whatever it takes support.

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        You act like there’s a real choice that doesn’t involve the extermination of the Palestinian people. Trump or Biden, and both of them are bad on this, but Trump is a hell of a lot worse on everything else, and you might not even get a vote in 2028 if he wins.

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            Nah, I just have a wider worldview and a better understanding of political power than you do. The US has always turned a blind eye to genocide, and has no issues committing it without remorse. You don’t fix that by withholding your vote, and to think otherwise means you don’t really get how this whole voting thing works lol

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    You know, if the GOP candidate was literally anyone but Trump, they’d probably be running away with this election. Heck, I’d be voting for them.

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      Bush got a million Iraqis killed in what only technically wasn’t genocide because we convinced them to kill each other, per standard colonial policy.

      There are so many blatantly evil and bigoted acts committed and supported by the GOP since fucking FDR was in office that voting for any of their candidates makes you, at best, a massive fucking moron with the memory of a goldfish.

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    Let’s wait some more before closing the barn door - the cows haven’t even reached the far end of the field yet!

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    President Joe Biden is not altering his policy toward Israel following a deadly strike that resulted in the death of more than 45 people, the White House said Tuesday, suggesting the incident had not yet crossed a red line that would force changes in American support.

    Instead, White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said the US would look for answers from Israel following the country’s investigation of the incident, which he described as “heartbreaking.”

    It was the clearest indication yet that Biden has not yet reached the point where he would consider suspending arms shipments or other aid to Israel, despite saying in a CNN interview earlier this month he wouldn’t allow certain US weapons to be used in a major offensive in Rafah.

    “The word tragic doesn’t even begin to describe it,” Vice President Kamala Harris said of the incident on Tuesday, declining to answer when questioned about whether it crossed a red line.

    Still, Kirby said Israel’s actions in the southern Gaza city have thus far not amounted to such a major ground operation, defining such a scenario as thousands of troops entering the locale.

    “As soon as the United States saw reports of this incident, we reached out to the Government of Israel to express our deep concern over what happened, ask for more information and urge them to undertake a full investigation,” he said.


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