• awwwyissss@lemm.ee
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    I think the extremist politics on here drive people away. I don’t even tell anyone I use Lemmy because of that.

    Hexbear is obviously the worst, but Lemmy.ml is also openly spreading propaganda.

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      Not just the politics, but the news threads I feel have degenerated into ragebait topics with shallow conversation. I used to find a conversation or 2 a day to participate in, but now I don’t want to touch many news or politics threads.

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      I see where you come from, my usual advice to new joiners is to block hexbear and to avoid news and political communities

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        It’s hard… when a user blocks an instance, the propaganda still shows up when the offending users comment on other instances.

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    6 months ago

    The constant spam of murica politics, linux evangelists and the lack of niche communities have almost made me stop using lemmy. Almost because there just isn’t any alternatives.

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    People who don’t want to be here, leaving, isn’t necessarily a problem until their absence begins affecting the level of activity.

    As long as the total user count keeps growing, that means new people are trying out Lemmy, which should mean new people who actually want to use it, are finding it.

    That that is currently happening more slowly than the rate at which people are leaving the platform, isn’t cause for alarm IMO.

    Lemmy doesn’t need a billion users, it needs enough to be worth using if it’s something you want to be using, and it does.

    Stuff like the Reddit API drama put it in front of a lot of new people, and I think even brought it up to critical mass in terms of user activity. But except for something like that happening again, the only “fixes” I can think of are small and slow ones.

    Stuff like spreading knowledge of the fediverse through word of mouth. Or purchasing ads for it with your own money.

    I’ve also been playing around with the idea of creating activist stickers that “advertise” federated social media, to place in public around my city.

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      I’ve thought about doing stickers too but I’m not sure if I’d want to do it for a local community rather than a specific instance.

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    Natural growth is better than surge. Lemmy will eventually be the defacto. Reddit will do something stupid and people will star pouring in.

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      I’m usually on that side, but I’m afraid we might just go down to 30k, 20k then snowballing to a very small number that would just kill the platform

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        I’ve been a bit concerned as well. I had gotten to know a fair number of regular commenters, but I haven’t seen probably half of them recently.

        New subs are still joining the community, but it’s still low participation. The big communities still seem to be growing steadily, but it’s not necessarily bringing the positive attitude that initially won me over to Lemmy.

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    6 months ago

    Some of the dropoff is likely due to college being out for the northern hemisphere summer, and just less people online due to the nice weather. Reddit sees a similar seasonal change I believe

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    6 months ago

    Stop harassing and brigading people who support Israel.

    Stop turning every thread into discussion of how much liberals are genocidal fascists.

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      6 months ago

      I am of the opinion that we should not, in fact, welcome genocidal fascists.

      If you disagree with the majority opinion on this matter, you may create or join an instance which does not federate with the majority.

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        Most who support Israel aren’t fascists, they are just wrong and not getting the correct information.

        Why would anybody join lemmy when the second largest server has a private discord server that they coordinate doxxing campaigns from?

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      OKAY I didn’t think this was unique to me. I seem to have been muted for pretty innocent stuff? I have been muted at least 6 times. The posting bans have lasted anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks. It’s very frustrating when you type out a well thought-out comment, click to submit, and it never posts. 😑 I try to select all & copy my comment before I submit.

      If I know some mod has muted me, I just comment ‘A’ on random posts to see if I’m allowed to speak again. If it doesn’t post successfully, ban remains in effect. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

      It almost has to be a muting ban of sorts, because I can’t post on my main but on a secondary I can post just fine. I haven’t left Lemmy (yet…) because I’m not going back to Reddit & aside from this, Lemmy is a decent substitute. Lemmy has been really frustrating, trying to be a member of the community. Forced into being a lurker six different times by some anonymous coward(s). Not knowing when your ban will be lifted.

      If my theories are correct, I’d like a little more transparency in the process. Who issues the muting bans, WHY, and when the talking ban will expire. It can be a simple, private direct message. “Butthurt Bob has muted you for: hurting his fee-fees. Butthurt Bob’s ban will last 6 days.”

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        Both of you seem to be on Lemmy world, is there a technical issue on their side?

        About your last point, you should be able to see exactly that in the modlog (orange button in community sidebars)

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        All instances and communities have public modlogs, that display all moderator actions, the mod that did them, and why, if they provided a reason (I always do).

        Thunder recently got support for accessing them, but you can always find them in the webUI in a browser.

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    There is also a problem with feddit.de for a couple of months now, one of the bigger instances on the fediverse. People are leaving, some are opening accounts on other servers. That didn’t help at all…

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        It’s a flaw in the fediverse concept. Federation is great, but if you have a big server run by a freelance admin who decides to take some time off without notifying anyone people will search for a more reliable solution. Or just go back to reddit.

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          That’s why reliable servers have more than one single admin.

          I guess we should educate more about that, actually I was surprised that feddit.de was run by a single person

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          Federation makes sense for a Twitter replacement. Not so much for a Reddit replacement. I get the feeling that we are at an end to the experiment. Eventually, people will realize that we cannot replace Reddit with a Fediverse based solution.

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            Why not? Having a look at Hexbear and Lemmy.ml, I think they are good examples why instances are good.

            Blahaj comes up as another example

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              So many instances block Hexbear and others. We are well on the path of creating separated communities, just with the added headache of having to police federation. Not to mention the problem of power users and out-of-control mods, which federation makes worse rather than solving them.

              Ultimately, I think a real Reddit replacement will have to think hard about fixing the fundamental problems of this form of social media, rather than attempting to use buzzwords or cool new ideas.

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                We are well on the path of creating separated communities

                We might, but compared to what it was when those very distinct group of people stumbled upon each other, it wasn’t really pleasant either.

                A potential scenario might be a few groups of federated servers

                • hard left: hexbear, lemmygrad, lemmy.ml
                • servers that block the first group, because they think it’s better: e.g. blahaj
                • server who will federate with everyone: lemm.ee, reddthat, etc.

                And I guess it’s okay. People can move their subscriptions in two clicks anyway, it’s easy to change instances

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                  Again, that doesn’t solve any of the fundamental problems of a Reddit-clone.

                  Anyways, our opinions don’t matter. If I’m right, the communities we’re on will quietly fade away.

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    A lot of users being centralized on Lemmy.ml doesn’t help, lot of toxicity comes from there and you can’t just block the instance unless you also want to lose a lot of content in your feed

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      Most of the .ml communities have a .world equivalent that is usually more active, but I see your point

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    This is definetly something to keep an eye on, for now I wouldn’t say this means much