• Beaver@lemmy.ca
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    Big Tech needs to knows its place. Yes especially you Apple. Make sideloading available globally.

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    Please, remember to vote on the European elections! We do need the EU to keep taking actions like this

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      :`-( I miss voting in the European elections! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺💪

    • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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      European elections have this advantage that the morons don’t even go to vote nor know what is going on.
      It’s the sole reason why is it going so good, obfuscation. Anything outside of the country is too much too grasp for the rightists.

      There’s some kind of deep moral to this and I am not sure it is a good one

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        Volt wants:

        To make digital rights binding. They call for a “Declaration on European Digital Rights and Principles”.

        Tax revenues from digital technologies where they are generated.

        Guarantee net neutrality and reject contradictory laws.

        Enact laws against the unethical use of AI.

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        As left as you can. I’d recommend something less extreme if proto-fascists aka liberals had not lied to us for decades.

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        Depends on you country, but the right wing one are usually not the ones that are so pro-regulation.

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        Discard the Brownshirts, their collaborators, and the Putin fluffers, and you probably won’t have many choices left.

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    There’s a rule banning “self-preferencing.” That’s when platforms push their often inferior, in-house products and hide superior products made by their rivals.

    Spaz isn’t going to like this.

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      He wouldn’t if it applied to him. Unfortunately, reddit is not a gatekeeper in the sense of the DMA and due to its management it’s also unlikely to ever reach that position :)

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        You’re right. Hopefully they will expand the rules to include non-gatekeeper services like Reddit once the rule is in effect.

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      Unless the saga continues, they didn’t “hide” the competition, they paywalled their access.

      There’s nothing wrong, per se, with charging access to the API. Where they went wrong was setting an exorbitant price. That was clearly anti-competitive. They knew the pricing they set wouldn’t be sustainable to any third party developers. Then he started shit talking the Apollo developer…

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        Well it may or may not be wrong. One of the measures would be, can Reddit afford the price if it also had pay for the same access? If the answer is no, then it might be considered preferential treatment to their own app. However ianal so there could be a carve out for that.

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    To this articles question on why apple should care about EUs 500 million citizens when they have trillions of Dollars. Well given that the USA only has 333 millions I would say they should care a lot.

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      Apple needs to realize that the EU doesn’t care if they left. They barely pay any taxes in the EU and don’t even create much economic value. Since most Apple jobs in the EU are in retail, businesses administration and tax evasion. They don’t produce shit here.

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        Meta tried to do the same. The EU response was to ask when they’d leave to plan the going away party. Meta was a lot less confrontational after that.

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          I think that the EU is fully aware that what makes those extra powerful is network effect. And, once they’re gone, something else pops up in their place. The case of Germans using WhatsApp for example would become inconvenient for them for fifteen whole minutes, then they’d jump into an alternative, and business as usual, without Faecesbook/Merda meddling.

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      As of the second quarter of fiscal year 2024, the Americas held around 41 percent of the revenue, whereas Europe came in second with roughly over 26.5 percent.

      source

      As the second largest revenue generator, Europe has a powerful voice.

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        The EU is only one chunk of Apple’s “Europe” segment, which is defined as “European countries, as well as India, the Middle East and Africa.”

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          Most companies group MENA separately. They must sell so few devices there that they don’t want to show the numbers separately

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            They’ve used the same segments for a long time and presumably maintain them for consistency, so I think it really just tells us that they used to sell very little there. India, in particular, has been a large growth market for Apple in the past couple of years, but is still just thrown in with “Europe.”

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              I can’t speak for Apple, but every company I’ve worked for has split their region reporting as soon as one of the traditionally smaller regions gets big enough

              It creates hype and a boost to their stock price

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      The article is ok (summary of the current state of things) but the title is completely out of place.

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    Apple’s going to fight all of this tooth and nail, country by country, to the end of time. Anything less and they risk a shareholder lawsuit.

    This is billions and billions of dollars we’re talking about, not chump change.

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      Apple get get out of my face. In EU, it’s not even close as popular as in NA. I wouldn’t care if they stopped selling products here

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        While I don’t like Apple losing them in the EU would be bad. Forcing them to open up their garden is way better.

        Less competition is bad for the consumer (usually). If they break laws though they must not sell in the EU.

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        I know but it feels like it’s getting more popular especially with younger people the teenagers and young teens that I know tend to be overwhelming drawn towards apple

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    In general the article seems to be a summary of current legislative actions that are ongoing between big tech and EU. Though in the article it’s worded with the much more fitting ‘game of chicken between EU and Big Tech’ rather than something like the title, but I guess “drop dead has a better ring to it”…

    I general the article has a lightly optimistic tone, which I very deeply hope holds true.

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    The Internet is a perfect example of why we can’t have nice things, or rather, why anarchy could never work.

    That’s what the Internet used to be, and what it largely is. And it worked quite well, until people realized the Internet could be monetized beyond just being an extension of your brand.

    Now it’s quite obvious that regulation is necessary. People are idiots and they can’t be trusted with a dopamine-injection-button run by greedy corporations. That gives those companies really unprecedented power.

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    When the Parasite Class objects so vehemently to something that is impacting their obscene profits and sociopathic control, you know that something is being done correctly.

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    Continue the good work, EU. You obviously hit a nerve, so you know you’re on the right track.

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    I’m swiss and not a EU fan, but I’m really proud of how they are standing up and facing these huge companies.

    We’ve clearly reached a point where these companies need to see that they can’t do everything they want.

    Let’s fight for reparability, interoperability and privacy!