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Do they want Baphomet in their schools? Because this is how you get Baphomet in your schools.
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“The purpose is not solely religious,” Sen. J. Adam Bass, R-Bossier City, told the Senate. Rather, it is the Ten Commandments’ "historical significance, which is simply one of many documents that display the history of our country and foundation of our legal system.”
There is NO WAY to say this with a straight face. We all know what you’re fucking doing, just admit it.
Ah, yes. Very foundational to our legal system. The First Commandment (using the version usually touted by evangelicals):
You shall have no other gods.
That’s why we didn’t pass the Bill of Rights with the US Constitution. Because the First Amendment there states people shall have freedom of religion, and that would contradict the First Commandment.
Very foundational to our legal system.
Given our political attitude towards Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, and Pagans, I honestly don’t detect a lie.
In America you can have any religion you want, so long as its the correct one.
The next four Commandments to round out the top five are foundational to our legal system, although none of these prohibitions is actually enshrined in any of our laws:
- You shall not make idols.
- You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
- Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
- Honour your father and your mother.
Yeah, and they’re trying to codify those (except they’d love it if you’d idolize them for “saving” you)
it is the Ten Commandments’ "historical significance, which is simply one of many documents that display the history of our country and foundation of our legal system.”
Alright, so let’s put them up right next to the Hammurabi Code, which is also majorly significant to history and our legal system. Maybe highlight the part about how Hammurabi was chosen by the Babylonian gods as the ultimate arbiter of justice.
Marduk rules, man.
Fuck Marduk. All my homes hate Marduk. Apsu was right about those rowdy kids all along!
Down with Marduk! Ahura Mazda is the one true god!
I don’t know, Marduk is a far better hook up for getting my pills https://youtu.be/uD-hjTuGbAs
If Marduk were all that great, then he would not have allowed Ahura Mazda and Darius to conquer the Babylonians.
We historically feared satanism too. Should probably post their commandments “so that the kids know what to watch for”. Right next to the biblical ones.
- Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
- Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
- When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
- If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
- Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
- Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
- Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
- Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
- Do not harm little children.
- Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
- When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
Satanism is weird. Let’s use The Satanic Temple tenets instead:
I
One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.II
The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.III
One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.IV
The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one’s own.V
Beliefs should conform to one’s best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one’s beliefs.VI
People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one’s best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.VII
Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.These are the ones to live by
And I think you forgot the following:
VIII
Remember to vote every Christofascist out of your congressional system on Election Day. They are in violation of your Freedom of Religion right.
I love how half of these are just “don’t be fucking annoying”
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These tools probably actually believe this country was founded on “the” ten commandments, even if the secular founding and the freedom FROM religion flies right in the fact. The first of “the” ten commandments and the First Amendment come into conflict right away. Their silly fanfic has their god Jehovah/Allah/Yahweh declaring there is to be no other god but him. Meanwhile, my First Amendment means I don’t have to give a flying fuck what they say their god says.
I’ll give him credit if he can produce the original, historical “document” he’s talking about
I demand the Magna Carta and the Code of Hammurabi be posted, using the same argument.
Going by memory of Captain Obvious’ guide book:
So… He’s bearing false witness about some stolen traditions (Jewish) & made in to a graven image.
If I had to guess, I would bet he worships cash & oppression more than Jaweh. I could be wrong. It could be pedophilia, like most vocally puritanical types.
What did I miss? 3/10 isn’t great. The fourth is just guess & conjecture.
if it’s not religious, why would you legally enshrine it? What other fucking reason do you have? The schools can just buy their own fucking copy of it ffs.
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Because they don’t actually believe in it
They haven’t read it. They have just heard what is in it from their leaders. Just like the banned books or the Bible.
This is it, combination of ignorance and stupidity.
Just like the bible, they love to cherry pick whatever fits into their narrative.
What are you talking about?
Four Legs Good, Two Legs
BadBetterSays so right there in black and white.
It’s technically not against the Constitution. The First Amendment prevents the government from creating or establishing a religion, and thereby prevents the power of the government from expanding beyond civil matters.
SCOTUS further restricted religious public education by ruling against religion in public curriculum in Engel v. Vitale in 1962.
Having religious text on display without induction into the curriculum is legal. Only now that they’ve mandated one religion, other religions have a platform for equal representation. Maybe it’s time for The Satanic Temple to open a Louisiana congregation?
Lol no. And SCOTUS has said no several times. There is no, “oops I left my Bible out and accidentally converted some kids” carve out for government employees. Religion stays at the door.
SCOTUS has ruled against it in curriculum, but separation of church and state is from one of Johnson’s speeches, and not technically in the Constitution. I wish it were. My point wasn’t implying defense of the display. I don’t want it in schools either. I’m simply saying if they want to play by the rules of Originalism, then all churches deserve equal representation according to the Constitution.
That’s already part of the SCOTUS rulings.
Do you have a link to that case ruling? I’d like to be up to date. I’m familiar with Engel v. Vitale, but that is exclusive to curriculum teaching. It does not apply to religious works on display.
Stone v Graham was exactly this. Kentucky tried to put the Ten Commandments into schools. SCOTUS said no.
That’s great! So there precedent. It’s only a lawsuit away from being removed.
Cause they are Putin’s Pooh Stains. He (& by his shitting out/spoon feeding marching orders, they) want to dismantle democracy.
His offense budget (~40k/year per social media troll (how many does he employ?)) does wonders against our defense budget (IDK how many hundreds of billions, but random memory says mid 7s).
Man puboy really getting his money’s worth with his Trump tapes and troll farm. Turn the US on themselves for basically free
Did somebody call me?
I was thinking: gimme Zarathustra, like they useta
…but Baphomet willl do.
There is obviously going to be a lawsuit to stop this if the governor signs off. It seems to fly directly in the face of the constitution.
It does fly in the face of the constitution, and multiple SCOTUS’ have affirmed exactly that several times.
Aha but this time we will find out which of the plaintiffs or some amicus curiae can afford the better RV.
It will be overturned after months of totally unnecessary court wrangling.
LA lawmakers will then say “we tried to enact your will, voters, but those godless fat cats in DC wouldn’t let us!”
Meanwhile said lawmakers will make no actual attempt to fix the status quo, and the wrangling and debate will ensure entrenched powers stay in power.
It clearly does, and allowing this to be enforced clearly breaks precedent, but with how the Supreme Court is now who knows what will happen.
Actually, it doesnt. The SCOTUS will say that the 1A only limits federal powers, not state.
man its a good thing the feds can’t mandate what the states can do…
Not sure if you’re being facetious, but that was the entire point of Dobbes
not once has the fed ever said to a state that the state couldn’t do anything ever, it’s never happened.
Not once. Don’t ask texas about secession.
Sounds like you might be entirely ignorant of our current political landscape.
The road to Hell is paved with people saying “stop overreacting!!”
and the road to fascism is paved with people overreacting. Yeah i’ve heard it all.
Stop being sensational and we can have a serious discussion about the current political climate.
Time to post 10 commandments in Arabic and watch MAGA meltdown
Not even that complicated; just invite a religious scholar to explain what Jesus said, starting with caring for hungry people and immigrants and in general literally just what he taught and what he cared about
They’ll shut that shit down like a female student with unpermitted clothing
Oh they’ll invite a “scholar” all right. The southern Baptist militia chaplain would love to preach to some kids.
Wouldn’t even be the first time this month that a bunch of religious zealots and government thugs stormed a school full of peace-loving hippies and dragged them off by their hair.
Just post the laws from Leviticus right next to them to make it clear nobody follows this.
Don’t wear cloth of mixed fabric was my favorite of god’s laws.
It’s curious how many xtians eat shrimp. And cheeseburgers, ffs. Against their god’s law.
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i’m pretty sure this is illegal?
Can we get someone on this?
It’s certainly illegal. But Louisiana is in the fifth circuit court of appeals, which is hilariously conservative. That’s the same court that covers Texas, and a few other southern states. Packing the fifth circuit with conservatives was a large part of the Southern Strategy. Now the appeals court is packed with hardline conservative judges. Whenever you hear about appeals courts being blatantly biased for conservatives, it’s almost always the fifth circuit.
So yeah, it’s illegal. But even if Louisiana courts strike it down, the fifth circuit appeals judge will likely reinstate it as soon as it crosses their desk.
There’s also a theory that the 5th circuit exists to make terrible rulings so that the Supreme Court can overturn it but do it in such a way that it still advances some horrible agenda.
Something along the lines of:
5th Circuit: You can totally post the ten commandments in schools, because hoorah Jesus!
Supreme Court: You can’t actually post the the ten commandments in all schools, just the private ones, oh and by the way it’s totally cool and legal to drain all the funding out of public schools and give it to private schools.
ah, a classic.
You have to be careful, though. In the wrong hands, philosophy can be a dangerous thing.
Keep promoting ideas like “Thou Shalt Not Kill”, “Keep the Sabbath Holy”, and “Don’t Worship False Idols”, and people might start thinking all our wars, our insane work schedules, and our fetishistic consumer culture aren’t good.
Given the habits of your average Louisiana legislator, you might want to scrap the Seventh Commandment entirely.
Thou shall not kill. Louisana has the death penalty. Might be a bit of a conundrum.
Sorry, they don’t want to follow the Commandments, they just want other people to do so.
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They needed a church thing their idiot constituents would recognize. They don’t actually follow their religion to know more obscure things. It’s not actually about the 10 commandments, it’s about being performative.
Time to go donate to TST and the FFRF, peeps.
I would watch this very well sourced video before donating to the TST and its leadership.
They are performative; they are not your protection.
that’s explicitly not true but ok.
I dunno, I know a couple lawyers who insist that TST is a complete sham making frivolous lawsuits. I’m kinda bummed about it because I used to be a donor.
what else are you supposed to do, not make frivolous lawsuits to make a point? You just sit there and go “damn, you got me this time bro”
If they are, what is a better alternative?
As long as this is posted right up next to it.
I think those are the Church of Satan principles.
Some may prefer the Satanic Temple’s tenets: https://thesatanictemple.com/blogs/the-satanic-temple-tenets/there-are-seven-fundamental-tenets
Either way, I agree, LA should be required to put up the beliefs of all religions if it will require even one.
Oh, they are. But right now, there are those that view the Satanic Temple as a publicity stunt, so it doesn’t have as much of an impact as it used to. Post the actual Church of Satan principles if you really want to rustle some feathers.
Please no. CoS is basically narcissism as a religious cult. TST are the ones doing the real work. And having actual common sense rules up there rather than edgy bullshit is going to do far more good.
Lol magic
Oh no! Better hope you have never deployed it successfully, or you’ll now lose all you have gained through it.
That will trigger the xtianists the most.
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Unfortunately CoS existed first by a few decades. Thankfully you can’t use IP protections for a religion so TST just tries to ignore them.
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Ahh okay
How can these people say they love America, the Constitution, and the Founding Fathers when they’re doing the opposite of what they wanted? Every religious law added to government sets us 100 years back.
it’s actually very simple. The Republicans in charge are evil and don’t care, while their followers are too uneducated to know any better.
Easy, they don’t GAF about any of that. They care about as much as they do about the “rule of law” and for “family values”.
Time for the Satanic Temple to post the 7 Tenets in classrooms!
Or the 5 tenets of the dark brotherhood (elder scrolls)
Under His eye.
George Carlin’s bit about the 10 commandments seems relevant here
https://genius.com/George-carlin-the-ten-commandments-annotated
Good old George Carlin
