Fuck, not being able to trust your doctor because some bootlicker in a suit has passed (or is trying to) a law defining your body’s natural processes as a potential murder case?
Fuck these fascist Republican scumbags.
If these fuckers get their way, I will, at some point, start seeing murder cases where the perpetrator is a woman and default to thinking that the charges are bullshit because of this.
Yup, and once they fully ban abortion, birth control is next, followed by taking away womens right to choose if they have kids or not. Meaning all girls will have a set amount of time to have their required number of children, following their first period.
My country has free healthcare. Doctors do not get any info unless you give them, because you keep the files.
To be fair, you could have the best doctor in the world. The second they enter those dates into the database with the rest of your notes it is out of their hands. The IT department will be responsible for handing over the data.
The IT department would never be responsible for handing over said data. Backing it up, making sure it was recoverable, sure. But IT would have no actions with such.
I assume it would be the HR department or the administrators
Legal will tell the IT department to preserve it and hand it over.
And they will not. You no nothing about IT do you? All obligations and no pay grade. Never does IT go outside their poor ass pay. HR (Legal) as you say, will have to transfer it. Not in our pay grade
You’re talking as if there are no MAGA assholes and corporate cocksuckers that work in IT. I hate to break it to you…
Leaking information and providing information to a warranted search I would consider vastly different.
I’m not sure what that has to do with what I said.
You no nothing about IT do you?
I’m not convinced you do, if you genuinely can’t imagine a scenario where someone with just enough permissions could be convinced to do this, legally or otherwise.
Same difference. It’s out of the doctor’s hands.
We all know there are incompetent people in human resources who will turn to their tech person and ask them to do the job. The tech person won’t even think twice about the actual intended use of the data that they’re sharing.
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The Democrats have had decades to ensure abortion access would be guaranteed, but they decided not to and allowed it to be overturned. Both parties were absolutely happy to do nothing and just raise funds over abortion, but the Republicans had to actually try to force a change.
If there is a pile of brushwood and gasoline containers next to my house, and my husband wants to light it on fire while my mother wants to keep it there, neither of those people is actually trying to make the situation better.
Interesting, the one who doesn’t want to burn your house down is equal to the person who does want to burn your house down in your mind?
Neither one wants to do what you want so both are equally bad to you, what a shit take.
The solution is to remove the danger, or else your house willburn down sooner or later.
That’s not an option you have right now.
The choice is between burning it down NOW or not.
You should probably ask yourself why you don’t have the option to actually reduce harm. Republicans jave no problem getting their representatives to do what they want. So why do Democrats struggle so much?
Because the Democrats are the big tent party. Republicans are backed by a bunch of idiots, WASPS, and single issue voters. The Democrats have entire core elements that vary by state and region, from urban progressive whites to rural socially conservative minorities sith both groups only agreeing on economics for example.
The fact is up until recently the Democrats have had to juggle even more groups that have fallen off, for example in my area there is an Iranian minority that used to back the Democrats but have turned to the Republicans because of LGBTQ issues, because they are a bigoted bunch of weaklings.
The point is that the Dems have been fighting themselves as much as the Republicans, which has hindered them quite a lot. The reason for the increased effectiveness in recent times is due to some demographics shrinking, disappearing, or otherwise realigning with more of the national average. Also the Republicans got a helluva lot worse.
How do we remove the danger? Specifically? Things the average person can do that will actually help.
All the average person can do is tell their representatives at the local and federal level what they expect in exchange for their vote. “Vote Blue no matter who” doesntlead to amy actual change unless you leverage your vote for actual policy changes. MAGA is the open admission of what the GOP has been pushing the last few decades actually realized. Republicans who didn’t offer what the base wanted were replaced by people willing to push for that reprehensible agenda. Pressure you representatives to actually protect human rights and replace them if theu won’t do it. The people have actual power, progressives have jist been conditioned to not wield ot since that threatens the power structure in Washington.
I’m very curious about what the democrats were supposed to do to guarantee abortion access, perhaps you can clarify this for me. Were they supposed to pass a law that somehow would be immune to repeal from the next republican congress? Executive order? Amend the constitution? Some other form of legislative or executive magic I’m unfamiliar with?
And your analogy of a literal arsonist being the same as another person just keeping some resources handy is actually very interesting - because by extension, you think that democrats should anticipate and prevent all possible fire-starting the republicans might do, and when they don’t, they’re just as bad?
They have been passing laws and changing constitutions at the state level for the past 18 months. Clearly there was political will for that, but they chose to sit on their thumbs and do nothing.
Something bad isn’t made better just because you compare it to something worse.
You didn’t answer the question.
I did though. Republicans spent the past 40 years saying they want to overturn Roe vs. Wade, and the Democrats did nothing to make that more difficult. Obama had a supermajority in 2009 and could have passed a national law protecting abortion rights, but didnt. States that swing back and forth could have passed similar laws that protected abortion, or put forth ballot initiatives to defend it, but didn’t. They knew what the Republicans wanted to do, and did nothing to prevent it.
Having the political will to do something now has zero to do with having the political will ten or fifteen years ago when it literally wasn’t a problem. Further, this idea that the democrats should just spend all their time and political energy finding ways to prevent all future possibilities of republicans doing bad stuff is stupid on its face, as it’s a flatly impossible task (both in scope and actual ability) and takes away from time spent solving other problems.
Obama had a supermajority in 2009 and could have passed a national law protecting abortion rights, but didnt.
I specifically asked in my prior comment what would stop republicans from repealing such a law when they had control, such as in 2017.
States that swing back and forth could have passed similar laws that protected abortion, or put forth ballot initiatives to defend it, but didn’t. They knew what the Republicans wanted to do, and did nothing to prevent it.
Man, the same thing over and over. Political will rarely exists to fix problems that might happen, it exists to fix problems that are material.
You know, climate change is important to me, so I think democrats should be expending all their efforts to make the EPA more durable so the next republican congress/administration doesn’t ruin it. Oh wait, anything they pass into law can be repealed by the next congress? Executive orders can be revoked? People can be appointed to run government organizations that only have an interest in destroying that organization? Things can be undone?!
Man, maybe prior administrations should have done some sort of magic with the Iran deal/Paris Accords/[any issue the Trump admin undid] so it couldn’t have been undone. I don’t know what that magic is, and its probably anti-democratic, but you seem convinced it exists.
Land of the thief, home of the slave.
You da real mvp.
I tell every doctor “a few weeks ago” and then when they suggest a date I say yes. So every doctor has a different day lol. Hopefully that doesn’t come back to bite me
I thought you meant:
Doctor: “when was your last period?”
Me: “a few weeks ago.”
Doctor: “date?”
Me: yes
Doctor: great I’ll pick you up at 8
breeding intensifies
Kinda funny how breeding fetishes kinda became more popular around the same time the right to abortion date flared up again after Dobbs
Hmm…you are definitely hanging around a different corner of the internet then I am.
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Your grandmother from Long Island highly approves!
I hope you don’t live in an abortion ban state, because that very well could come back to bite you
That makes me soooo fucking angry
I do, so we will see what happens
I’m sure my governor would love to see me in jail anyway
Hey if you’re on hormonal birth control I think you can just tell them you use the method that gets rid of periods (not taking the placebo week and just continuing with the hormone pills, this is safe if you also just don’t want to have periods link)
I have an iud and besides a short time after having one removed to get pregnant with my daughter haven’t had my period in uh, 9 years? I just tell them I don’t have a period and haven’t in years and they accept that readily
If you live in a deep red state even that info will be used against you. The GOP wants to make women brood sows and any type of birth control is considered murder/going against God’s plan.
Good point, I appreciate it!
Bald eagle freedom screech intensifies.
Fun fact: the famous bald eagle freedom screech as we know it from the movies is not from an eagle, it’s the scream of a red-tailed hawk.
These days it’s actually the screech of the yellow bellied, tail tucked misogynist.
In reality eagles just sound like large seagulls.
Quite disappointing actually.
Edit: Now that I see them juxtaposed I wonder if the names of the two birds are related due to the similarity in sound.
Seagull… E-gull…
Hmmm…
I was meaning the sound the birds make 😅
They actually sound like deranged seagulls. I think that sound is probably more on the nose for what is going on in the US.
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Red states are obsessed with knowing who is potentially pregnant and increasingly making legislation to punish people who appear pregnant and suddenly aren’t (ie, no periods, then abortion, then having a period). Some of that includes reporting that information, apps for tracking have already been caught sharing that info.
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Congrats, you’ve become the meme here
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Missed opportunity to use the “Look at me, I’m the meme now” meme as your response to becoming the meme.
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Memes are a form of cultural expression, spread from one person to another. This post is a meme. It’s not humorous but it is a meme
No, memes follow or aim to create a template / macro. This is just a snapshot of a Twitter post.
Meme - In popular language, a meme may refer to an Internet meme, typically an image, that is remixed, copied, and circulated in a shared cultural experience online.
This post is a meme. It is an image that is circulated in a shared cultural experience (this post and it’s many reposts)
Maybe - but “memes” like this don’t have the remix portion. It doesn’t even really have the copy portion, because this is more like a repost - the OP didn’t copy this tweet to make a similar but different point, they’re just sharing a tweet on this Lemmy community. So by this definition, it’s not really a meme.
If this were a meme, I’d be able to take it, change some key words while maintaining the general cadence, and a similar outcome with an alternate context. You can’t really do that with this screenshot of a tweet.
The image isn’t the meme here. What is memetic is the idea of withholding previously innocuous-seeming information from healthcare professionals in the interest of self-preservation.
And if you ask what’s memetic about that, I will in turn ask you what coordinated and intentional effort exists to push this concept of information withholding for safety onto American women? And when you then come back after having not found any coordinated and intentional effort, I will simply ask you then how you think this idea has spread to the point of being so easily recognizable and identifiable? Memetic discourse.
I mean, you could interpret remix in a few ways. Editing this specific image? Perhaps it hasn’t been done but that doesn’t mean it can’t be. If we’re considering the core message of the post to be the meme, then I would say it has been remixed. This isn’t the first post I’ve seen conveying this sentiment in similar (but distinct) wording. Theres a reasonable basis for this interpretation in my opinion.
Just because you and I lack the imagination and possess enough empathy to not edit this meme doesn’t mean there aren’t other people out there who can/have
Nope! A meme is an idea that passes from person to person and evolves as it does. Image macros are simply one form of meme.
The image in the OP, nor the text within it, will be passed from person to person nor will it become the basis for parody. There has to be some criteria for a meme community to follow and any original piece of text will qualify unless there’s some amount of circulation associated with it. Otherwise what separates this community from lemmy.world/c/politics ?
Here ya go: https://imgflip.com/i/8qbioo
You say that with such certainty. Can you prognosticate about other things or just the future of memes?
It already has been passed from person to person. We wouldn’t be talking about it if it hadn’t.
You are describing image macros, which are only one single type of meme, not the only thing that can be memetic. Even philosophical concepts can be spread memetically.
I’m sorry, you simply have a misconception about what the definition of a meme is.
I would classify this as a combo INFOSEC and “OK boomer” meme, ie, “Lol, you trust _____ with that info? OK boomer”
15 years or so ago I would’ve classified it as a conspiracy nutjob meme, but that’s the state of politics.
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Thanks
Didnt you know? Screenshots of text are they new memes
Mods should remove posts which don’t stay on topic
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Holy shit, that hits home. Smart daughter.
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Any woman who votes for the right at this point is voting for the handmaid’s tale. Ending no fault divorce, ending a woman’s right to choose, tracking women’s periods, and the list goes on. The right is trying to roll back women’s rights little by little.
I remember when the right said things would never get as bad as the handmaid’s tale. It’s not a coincidence they stopped saying that.
I like this N.J. way to talk to doctors: “don’t worry about it”, “it is what it is”, “who’s asking?”
Reminds me of Johnny Tightlips:
Fat Tony: Johnny, how’s your mother?
JT: Who says I have a mother?
Johnny Tightlips, where’d they hit ya? JT: I ain’t saying nothin’ But, what do I tell the doctor? JT: Tell him to suck a lemon.
What’s it to ya?!
“What are you, a cop?”
“What consistency is your stool lately?”
OWWWW!!
This explains why people say healthcare in US is terrible
Calling it healthcare is starting to seem like more and more of a stretch every day
Following the naming conventions of 1984.
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Hah!
It’s a reason, not the reason
I heard even citizens have to pay for it even when you break bone.
Yup. And if you get sick. And if you need emergency treatment.
If you can’t pay then they’ll “stabilize” you and kick you out.
Having broken bone IS needing emergency treatment.
It’s an emergency, but is it a 3 months worth of rent emergency.
“New joint I guess”
Oh you clearly didn’t grow up on the wrong side of America. We first ask, but how broken is it really?
Enough to be seen on x-ray.
Sorry, what x-ray? Oh, that’ll be $200 please. The USA is dystopia
No it doesn’t. This is a problem with our laws, and it’s not true across the us, only in some of the less intelligent of our states.
The reason people think our health care sucks is because it’s for profit which inevitably leads to crappy/no care for the poor. And for that reason it does suck.
But of course, mindless bashing on the US? Upvotes, no matter how little it makes sense.
The reason people think our health care sucks is because it’s for profit which inevitably leads to crappy/no care for the poor. And for that reason it does suck.
When people compare healthcare between countries, people compare healthcare by those countries. Not by corporations in those countries. This is why I say my shithole has worst dental care on the planet. And have bad avaliability, brcause regions are still part of country. Although the worst is better than none, I guess. Terrible both by European standards and by standards of 20 years ago. Again, USSA managed to be even worse than this.
It’s secondary to point that one states problems be applied to the whole country, although thats probably closer to using the worst of any country in the EU to paint the whole EU.
The point is that this is relatively new, and this is not why people generally think the health care is bad in the us. We actually have great healthcare if you have money. not so much if you don’t. This is the general reason why us healthcare is looked down upon.
It’s secondary to point that one states problems be applied to the whole country, although thats probably closer to using the worst of any country in the EU to paint the whole EU.
Even then EU healthcare probably better than of my country.
not so much if you don’t.
When people compare healthcare between countries, people compare healthcare by those countries. Not by corporations in those countries.
Really. If you have money, there is no difference between countries.
I’m going to guess this person lives in one of those shithole theocracies.
I’m so glad I got sterilized once the RvW info got leaked. I wish I could thank whomever leaked it. In my eyes, they’re a hero.
I am Canadian and offered on my Facebook page to mail abortion pills to Americans, got IMMEDIATELY banned for 30 days, and was interviewed by Vice about that. Facebook is complicit.
I’m not one to defend Facebook, the execs can burn in hell for all I care, but they do have to comply with the laws of countries or else face being sued by some litigious Americans.
Let me ask you this. Are you still on Facebook?
Me myself was not happy with the influx of misinformation on there 10 years ago and I’ve not used the site since, or Instagram or WhatsApp.
Full disclosure: we use ReactJS at work.
Yes because I have a lot of friends from a previous social media platform and that’s the only way we can stay connected.
Hey, each to their own, but I’m prepared to make sacrifices for the things I believe.
I don’t shop on Amazon, and some things I just can’t find elsewhere so I just don’t buy them.
As mentioned I don’t use WhatsApp so I miss out on group chats as my friends won’t use signal.
The list is quite long at this point.
I just find it odd that you’ll call out Facebook for being complicit but do nothing about it.
I really appreciate your dedication but most of us are just trying to get by. I mean the fact that we’re engaging with you on this platform instead of others is worth something.
Personally I am old enough that I have never had social media. ICQ then AIM were the way people connected when I was young. Many of the people my age have Facebook accounts, but it’s not like they’re on there obsessing daily.
My wife deleted her Facebook a couple years ago and I was so proud of her.
Please be careful. Your heart is in the right place but if you keep cutting people out over a shitty choice of platform you might end up out of friends.
Thank you for your kind words, and I didn’t mean to come across as combative or anything, I was just voicing my thoughts.
As for losing friends, if my friends don’t believe in the same things as me then I really should find friends I have more in common with.
Full disclosure I’ve done some fucked up things in my life and my way of making amends is speaking of for the people less fortunate than I am and taking a stand for the things I believe, whether it makes a difference or not.
If I had a better way to universally keep in touch I would.
Use AI to identify republicans based on their data, institute shadow bans and silent monetary fines wherever they go outside of their fascist states, and use the fines to finance reproductive health options for the women in their states. Watch the depends diapers fly.
Its funny, because you basically described the Silicon Valley plan to do fascism in San Fransisco
The idea of the Network State is one in which The Grays - a cabal of tech industry insiders - wage war against The Blues - California liberal democrats - by freezing them out of domestic infrastructure.
The macro task is to take back the city. The micro task, or the meso-task, is to take back individual streets and buildings and clearly mark them as under Gray control … For example, if you had Gray owners of every single building in San Francisco or even every single building on a block, you could set it up such that the Gray login will get you into the building. I mean, this already kind of happens. You have to swipe your key card to come in because the streets are so dangerous. Like near Twitter HQ, for example, that you’d like or run inside and you swipe your key card and you go up the elevator or whatever. Sometimes I’ve seen people do that. So that’s already something that exists but the difference is you’d network it between buildings. And you have something of a Gray tribe membership gets you into the buildings, gets you into certain floors. That is already legal and already practical, under current law. Okay, so that’s good, where you have a foothold of private property. And you have a group membership of Gray tribe membership and private property. You also issue T-shirts, and T-shirts are, let’s say, the similar Gray color and it’s just got different logos and patches on it.
Take total control of your neighborhood. Push out all Blues. Tell them they’re as unwelcome as … just as Blues ethnically cleanse me out of San Francisco, push out all blues. And then you’ll easily win.
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Reds should be welcomed there and people should wear their tribal colors. No Blues should be welcomed there. And in addition to celebrating celebrating Gray and celebrating Red, you should have movies shown about Blue abuses. For example, there’s this guy who’s addicted to drugs, who was addicted to drugs he posts on Twitter about how the Blue government helped him get addicted to drugs. You should have an interview with him. There should be lots of stories about what Blues are doing that is bad.
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Elon, in sort of classic Gray fashion … captures Twitter and then, at one stroke, wipes out millions of Blues’ status by wiping out the Blue Checks and, another stroke, you know, where it does cause some damage, renames Twitter as X, showing that he has true control, and it’s his vehicle, and that the old regime isn’t going to be restored.
Push out all the blues, reds should be welcomed. Gray sounds very enlightened centrist.
Okay, not entirely educated on female menstruation person here.
Does the period cycle change or is it consistent over time? Like is it about tracking a woman’s pattern and if there’s a change… that’s the flag?
It’s about the cycle stopping and then starting again, suggesting that the person was pregnant until she wasn’t again.
Exactly, and it’s not just about abortion. Well it is, but abortion isn’t the only cause. Miscarriages are common, and unfortunately these days miscarriages of fetuses and of justice go hand in hand.
Upvoted for semantics
Thank you, I’m proud of my turn of phrase and disappointed and enraged at my country
Here in Los Angeles there’s been extra visitors from other states. Probably the y just want to go surfing, or visit Disneyland, I’m sure that’s it.
To add what prune said, it can be some what inconsistent. Women aren’t robots.
My ex had periods that were frequently +- a week or so, and my current GF is regular enough to freak out over a couple days.
There’s also things that can cause skipped periods that have nothing to do with pregnancy- intensive physical training or stress.
Thanks for adding that. I was aware of those cases (also: the pill can make you stop having periods at all), hence why I wrote “suggested”.
However, law enforcement can’t be trusted to give you the benefit of the doubt. Especially, if it’s illegal and persecution is especially politically motivated.
yup.
I can only imagine what someone like my ex would have to worry about in those places. The idea that something- for her- is totally normal would see her facing charges for things that never happened anyhow. It’s patent stupidity.
This kid is smart, and whoever coached her… good job.
Reminder to use Drip to track menstruation as every other comparable app I have found features telemetry and shouldn’t be trusted.
I’m so glad I’m old and dried up.
Hey it’s the sovcit whisperer!
Haha hello. I do exist all over Lemmy.
