Any company that intentionally underpays their employees so that they require govt assistance to live should be billed the full cost of all assistance that employee receives.
I think that minimum wage being a livable salary, is less complicated.
I imagine that’s part of their point? At least that is how I took it.
UBI could be even less complicated. If everyone were guaranteed a livable income, a minimum wage might not even be necessary.
I like Scott Galloway’s take: SPEAK THEIR LANGUAGE!
Call UBI a negative tax and Republican voters will listen.
Just enough to pay rent and utilities. Then only corporations will own property.
Por que no los dos
Billed double. Make it hurt.
The wealthy NEED the airports to keep running so not to interfere with their vacation plan. Starving kids on the other hand can simply be rewoven as doormats by any good capitalist.
I’m GLAD we not only BAILED THESE COMPANIES OUT WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS and also DON’T TAX THEM but we ALSO get to Pay Their Employees!
-Republicans who don’t want to use their Tax Dollars to Feed Starving American Children.
Why would we feed starving children when they’re just going to grow up being underpaid employees on welfare?!
How is being paid “from pushback to arrival” even vaguely legal?
When you have money you get to write the laws.
Remember when a letter from an airline exec was all it took for the cdc to reduce COVID sick leave? PFR…
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Even fast food restaraunts in airports pay a higher hourly rate to compensate the staff for the added pain in the balls for getting to work.
they’re salaried? only thing I can come up with.
If they’re infact hourly… then work is work, and they’re working off the clock.
They’re hourly. I still can’t believe this is legal.
Edit: found an article on it. Spoiler: it’s legal because the government makes all sorts of exceptions for airlines. Their unions even have to get government permission to strike!
Thank you Railway Labor Act of 1926. It’s actually not all bad, but it does put railway and airline workers in a different class. It all depends on how the National Mediation Board is feeling that day.
Been that way forever. Parking brake release with door closed was the standard for a long time. Now they have parking systems on the terminal that sense the aircraft and don’t start the clock until the aircraft pushes back, and stop the clock as soon as it’s parked even if you’re sitting there for 30 minutes waiting for the jet bridge or whatever.
Yeah but they also used to have a good enough pay that it was still an okay deal, even if the clock only ran during aircraft movement. It’s still the case with other airlines I have an old friend that went to work for Etihad and he seems to be doing fine. Tells me about the nice weekends away all over the world during rest time, lives in a nice apartment in Dubai with a view, etc. Granted I’d never want to live there but I’m sure you can achieve similar lifestyle with other international airlines (Singapore, KLM, etc etc).
Sure, back before deregulation. But the pay today for new cabin crew is not what you think it is, and it takes quite a few years before you can keep your head above water. Some other national carriers like Etihad are going to be different, but they have a lot of other rules to put up with for that extra pay.
Oh for sure at the end of the day it’s still massive corporate industries so, ya know, corporate gonna corporate… Long gone are the days where it was a dream career.
I hope the unions give these bastards a nice, swift kick in the ass.
If anyone should be taking a pay cut, it’s the shitty CEO’s whose decisions make flying a miserable experience.
If this were in a free country, sure. But these unions need government permission to strike.
I didn’t know that.
Ain’t that a fucking bitch.
Welcome to “democracy”
Nobody wants to work anymore.
I haven’t flown in a while, have they already started asking us to tip flight attendants?
Remember, they’re the ones that close the doors (or don’t)!
Yeah, but it is Boeing that decides if it stays closed
Remember to tip your Boeing assassins.
guys does making airline workers unable to afford life make passengers less safe?
Time to unionize, I think.
They are already
Thats has to be from the onion! ( I hope at least )
But tHe inVisIbLe haNd
but the current rules make it almost impossible for them actually to stage a walkout.
Good ol Genocide Joe still isn’t doing shit for union workers.
Are you serious? Conservatives are not even hiding the fact that if elected they would 100% support israel and russia. Go get a brain
“Other people are worse” isn’t a good excuse for his own responsibility.
Let’s say that you vote for trump and even just ten more people die because of his measures: ten people more than with the less aggressive contributions from the democrats. At that point you have directly participated in killing those people. You can find all the excuses you want but that’s the crude reality.
That’s why we’re not voting Trump either. Your analogy doesn’t work.
Thanks! Still voting not genocide. You enjoy being pro that.
Ok you really need to get a brain quickly
Great comeback
If you say that voting trump means stopping the genocide it’s clear that we are not having an honest conversation. You are a troll and I’m not wasting any nore time around you.
You keep writing comments like the only choices are voting for Trump or voting for Biden. Voting third party or not voting at all are also options, and neither one as as much blood on my hands as voting for both pro-genocide candidates.
In that case maybe your heart is in the right place but that’s still not a reasonable solution, as de facto there are only two choices and voting for neither or not voting at all is not helping when the risk is enabling a totalitarian regime that literally plans on killing people and eradicating hard-earned freedoms.
Your reading comprehension is failing you. Let me spell it out explicitly for you: I am definitely not voting for Trump. I am not voting for Biden. There are other options.
Well flight attendants have the luxury of not having to live in a single place. I would live in some cheap country.
Till you realize it will take you 2 days to fly back to your station.
Well you could also live in some Podunk in Atlanta… Honestly I could see purchasing property in frequently traveled areas… Even if you just have an RV in some lot.
Or maybe you should put pressure on a multimillion dollar company to pay their employees a living wage, rather than defend them while blaming the workers
Lol long term RV parking starts at about $700 a month. I am sure it is more expensive on the east coast. Pretty quickly you are paying about the same as renting a room. And if it is just sitting in an empty lot no way it will be in the same shape as when you left it. Plus why Atlanta, it is not the most dangerous city but it does rank in the bottom 1/3.
Atlanta is a huge Delta hub. With the RV thing I was saying that it could be kept in an employee lot at the airport. Then drive to some land.
You are just going to have to trust me on this. That isn’t going to work. Airports are kind of picky about how they let employees park. Also there will be no American airlines flight attendants based out of Atlanta, so they won’t be able to park employee parking. They will have to pay to park and I doubt that they would let you park an RV.
These flight attendants are literally being paid a poverty wage. Ain’t no hustle and jive that’s going to get around that.
You think flight attendants make enough for multiple homes in multiple property tax systems? Did you read the article?
