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        Not as scary as the propaganda you’re spreading with the original post.

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          Here we go with this lemmitor copypasta dumbassery again.


          Neither the Tiananmen riots nor Pooh is censored in China. I think Lemmitors themselves made up the Pooh censorship nonsense.


          And the Uyghur bullshit has been debunked six ways to Sunday.

          The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.

          We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

          Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

          The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

          Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

          Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

          Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

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          the difference between our copypastas is the fact that mine is based in material reality. DEATH TO AMERICA

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            😂

            I’m pretty sure they think their copypasta has magical censorship powers, which is the kind of thinking I usually only see in SovCits.

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          I have no idea how comparing Chinese people to yellow animals is racist 🤔. I really wonder how 🤔

          Next thing you’ll tell me is that comparing black people to monkeys and Jews to demons is racist too. Damn, this woke crowd! /j/s

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              Source: Western Media

              Which lie 105% of the time. The extra 5% is when they make random shit up and lie more to justify the random shit they made up.

              There is no Uygur genocide. Nice try C.I.A.

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                Source: Western Media

                Which lie 105% of the time. The extra 5% is when they make random shit up and lie more to justify the random shit they made up.

                Compared to what? The obscure, unsubstantiated, suspicious and clearly pro-Chinese news sources referenced here by you and your buddies?

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              I thought blahaj was better than this.

              The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.

              We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

              Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

              The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

              Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

              Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

              Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

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              Not so fast. While it is certainly questionable what they are doing and I personally don’t like China either, the Uyghur situation is complicated and Bad Empanada made a detailed analysis of the situation while trying to be unbiased. Most of what we see (or rather saw since the trend kind of died) in western media is very exxagerated and there were reasons that had little to do with ethnicity.

              You can watch it here, it’s very long but worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js

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            why don’t you go learn uygur and move to china, or go to russia, or move to north korea. heck even belarus.

            edit: why did you replace your comment? so your insatne admins don’t find out, TOO LATE IT’S IN MY INBOX.

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      Noooo China bad if you didn’t know!

      I’m almost the opposite side of the political compass from current Chinese regime but even I must admit Sinophobia is out of control. It is totally cool to altogether dismiss and undermine any of their achievements and reduce 1/6 of humanity down to a single facet, all because popular Western propaganda says so.

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      How is this meme exclusive? You don’t understand it?

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    Wasn’t it like… they lifted that many out of “extreme poverty” which they classify as anything less than $2.30/day?

    I mean, cool, cool. But also, you’re not in poverty in China if you make $3/day, huh?

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      The Poverty Elimination Campaign required all citizens to have adequate food, clothing, shelter, water, electricity, and ability to access education. So, no, it wasn’t just that. They built many homes for people, provided them subsidized food supplies, power stations to provide power to extremely rural areas, and more.