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Should group X vote for Biden in November? Yes, no matter which group you are in, you will be better off with Biden.
There are zero groups that will actually be better with trump. There are only small groups of people who will feel better when watching people be worse off then them.
This mindset is the reason Democrats keep loosing. Saying I’m better than the alternative, only can work so many times. Most people are aware that Biden would be better than the alternative on all issues, but not showing up to vote, is the only way in the broken American political system to show that you had enough with the bullshit.
Democrats act like it’s your duty to protect their position in power, even when they actively refuse to listen to what you want. They stab you in the back time and time again, and then they go on national television and say that YOU are responsible for protecting the democracy. How about they do something to protect the democracy?
This mindset is the reason Democrats keep loosing. Saying I’m better than the alternative, only can work so many times.
Actively NOT voting for somebody who is “less bad” than the other guy is an act of stupidity I can never comprehend.
Yeah, that’s cool, then, let’s get this “I’ll be a dictator on day one” insurrectionist back in there. You won’t have to worry about another vote after that. That’ll show those Dems.
but not showing up to vote, is the only way in the broken American political system to show that you had enough with the bullshit.
Lmao what? No it’s not. It’s the ultimate act of capitulation. It says nothing more than “Do what ever you want to me, I don’t care”
Voting strategically is not an act of heroism any more than wiping your ass is. It’s the bare minimum that you do when things are basically okay.
The real question you should be asking is “should I tolerate the situation in America as it exists?” If you’re not happy with Trump or Biden, the answer is no. End of story.
Strike is on the table. A large general strike would be needed to force reforms. Get specific and organize. Be sure to include voting systems in your thinking.
But don’t forget to attend to the basics while you’re at it. There’s no realistic third alternative in this voting system. Many more people will die under Trump, and you won’t be the one picking.
I would love to see a massive general strike.
Yeah not showing up to vote would certainly show the controlling Elites what is. Also goes nicely with that 30% of Americans that don’t vote no matter what. If you’re going to insist on idiotic plans at least vote third parties so you know your vote actually counts as a statistic of a locally grumpy voter. On the bright side if you guys get your way and Trump does get elected it could make the material circumstances bad enough that we could see a real upheaval in American society that will make things significantly worse and then make things significantly better.
If you’ve got a better plan I’m all ears, but I’ve never seen any actual alternative proposed.
Democrats aren’t losing, they’ve over performed in just about every election since 2020. The party has grown more left wing in recent years but obviously work still needs to be done. Virtually every progressive in government will endorse Biden for reelection. There was no significant primary challenge against him.
If you don’t vote you aren’t participating in an election where you can influence the outcome. In reality the statement you make by sitting out is that you don’t care what happens.
There are valid criticisms you could make of Biden especially over how he has handled the Gaza war. But pretending that you’re enlightened by not voting and effectively helping Trump is not an effective strategy in the long term.
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Your comment provides no productive insight or refutation of anything I mentioned. You look like a fool by creating a straw man of my position.
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You should be showing up to vote, just not for the two parties of capital.
Very brave of you when you get to vote for Hitler (D) instead of Hitler ®. Now why did Hitler (D) become the nominee? Well after numerous elections where the previous (D) president turned the migrant camps on the southern border into full-blown death camps, rather then not voting for more death-camps, liberals like you chose to vote for “fewer” death camps because it was more pragmatic.
Vote for Biden or vote for the guy who set up Muslim bans…
Or don’t vote which helps the guy who wanted Muslim bans…
Hard choice…
Should they vote for Donald Trump?
He seems like a good choice if they want to be banned from the country or for Israel to “finish the job.”
Joe Biden is an admitted non-Jew Zionist. Should a Muslim vote for a Zionist? That is a more accurate question.
- ‘I am a Zionist’: How Joe Biden’s lifelong bond with Israel shapes war policy | Reuters - https://www.reuters.com/world/us/i-am-zionist-how-joe-bidens-lifelong-bond-with-israel-shapes-war-policy-2023-10-21/
