• maynarkh@feddit.nl
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    Maybe let people enjoy their hobbies? Is belittling other people for being enthusiastic about something the new chic?

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      Literally. You can say that shit about anything. Like omg a lil researcher. We’ll have fun with your beakers lil guy! Keep mixing stuff 🙃

      Girls who like to knit are funny like “look at me I can make clothes out of string!” Yup you sure can lil one!

      Ugh.

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      Nah, it’s been this way forever. Only, it used to be reserved for nerds and geeks enjoying d&d, comics, and whatever else wasn’t cool at the time. Society’s just at a point now where the jocks aren’t the defacto popular kids so their hobbies are fair game for ridicule now too.

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      This is satire. Sports enthusiasts are mainstream, The mainstream is notorious for looking down on other people’s hobbies being weird or not mainstream. Liking a sport is something almost everybody does. This is the little guy punching at the big guy, and that’s why it’s funny.

      As soon as people stop shaming D&D players and furries and other niche interests, this sort of retaliatory satire will vanish.

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        You give an example of why one way might be more harmful than the other, but not why we can’t just allow people to enjoy their interests in peace.

        You are basically saying “well, it’s okay to act like asshole to everyone who likes sports because some people who like sports are assholes to other people!”

        It’s a dumb point, especially if you see the harm in it yet still try to justify it.

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          Punching up highlights the ongoing problems of people punching down. The enlightened centrism approach of “can’t we all just get along” has never worked. Suffering silently has never worked.

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                Can you describe how thats punching up? Because I don’t see it. Are all strikes now “punching up”?

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                  … Yes?

                  In a situation with two groups with a significant power differential, the group with less power is “down” and the group with more power is “up”. Punching up is exactly what it sounds like, given that situation.

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        That attitude isn’t going to make anything better. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Generalizing all sports people as bullies is just as bad as picking on any other group for their hobbies. I say this as someone who doesn’t give a shit about sports and was bullied quite a lot.

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      I def agree that no one should knock a (harmless) hobbie, but I didn’t read the post as being mean. My reading was more that it’s genuinely thinking it’s cute that some guys get so excited about sports. At least, it’s better than the “ugh all men care about is sports” kind of angle.

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      You can run defense for football peeps all you want but football peeps live for shitting on people who don’t football

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      You’ve obviously never lived where sports is a religion. These are not people “enjoying hobbies”. These are frightened men screaming at children to run in a circle faster.

      If they were “enjoying it” they would smile more. Look at all the smiles on the sidelines there. Look at 'em. Are there any? Sometimes. But not that often. Mostly it’s scowling and looking VRY SRS

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        I grew up in a place where some football matches warranted a national emergency. Football hooligans were also pivotal in changing the government for the worse in the past 20 years. I know that football can be toxic. Moreover, I hated the over-emphasis of football in schools, and I never liked playing it, which had me left out of some social circles.

        All that said, if people want to run after balls, or dress up in merch of their favourite teams, let them. A ton of hobbies have toxic followings, that doesn’t mean enthusiasm equals toxicity. Laughing and belittling people for being enthusiastic is quite antisocial in my opinion.

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      That’s called being cool and has been around my whole life

      Edit: Either people are unaware of social conventions or think I am endorsing them

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    It’s funny how cosplaying is seen as this weird niche nerdy activity… unless it’s as an athlete.

    Although, having said that, we do have the term ‘full kit wanker’ in the UK, for anyone who buys the whole kit (not just the t-shirt, scarf or hat). Because, you see, there’s an acceptable quantum of cosplaying.

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      If I told people I planned to sit around for hours on a weekend watching TV, they’d call me lazy.

      If I told them I was watching sports, they’d ask me what team I liked.

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        If I told people I planned to sit around for hours on a weekend watching TV, they’d call me lazy.

        Pretty sure this stopped being true a decade ago.

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        True. But I think if I wore, like, a Star Trek comm badge, that’d raise more questions than if I wore an Arsenal t-shirt!

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          One thing has shaped communities and defined cultures for a century and the other thing is a science fiction show. It’s really not comparable in my opinion.

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            Maybe for soccer, but the above statement could apply to basketball, ice hockey, and football and those have only been around about 2.5 times longer than trek.

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              It bleeds over though, they are all team sports. Just like Europeans grow up with their local football teams being celebrated, Americans grow up with their franchises being celebrated.

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      Yeah I’m a cosplayer and a sports fan. It’s weird. They’re really cousin hobbies. Both dressing up in appreciation and support of some pop culture “team”—usually that we had nothing to do with creating.

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    These women just can’t understand that men dress and play sports for themselves, not to impress women.

    😤😤😤

    Another estrogen filled rant from the woman-splaining fem-ocracy!

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    Women are so funny with their designer clothes and handbags, “I’m just like my favorite singer/actress!” haha, sure you are, lil princess 😀

    Getting their nails done is hilarious, like aww, you gonna go change the way your hand operates so you can have your fun-time 3 inch long plastic shit gatherers? better show them off at the grocery store! 😜

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    I’m not a sports fan, so I see the humor in this.

    On the other hand, I also see women spending thousands of dollars on clothing, makeup, accessories, etc. In the mistaken belief that this will somehow gain them the attractiveness (which I think is debatable anyway) of professional models and actresses.

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      Good point. As a man, I neither clothe nor groom myself, these being baffling, feminine activities. (For the curious, I wear a single beige tunic and wash myself in rainwater.)

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        There is nothing at all wrong with attractive women. But women aren’t going to become attractive by buying trendy shampoos, cosmetics, or clothing. It’s an illusion created by the marketers for those items.

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          If you genuinely think that self care and dressing well have no impact on how attractive you are then I suggest you have a fuck of a lot of queer eye to catch up on.

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            My whole point was not about the use of self-care and dressing well, although most people don’t seem to realize that these are cultural relatives, not absolutes. I was saying that the industries continue to make people feel like they can become beautiful, happy, and successful by buying these things. And then in 3 months, it’s a new season and it all starts again.

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          Grooming oneself is definitely a good way to make yourself more attractive. Just look at all the celebs with or without makeup and nice clothes. It makes a world of difference, and is also applicable to everyone.

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            I have nothing against grooming. But an enormous chunk of our economy is devoted to selling images and dreams of beauty, rather than actually doing anything. Check out the chemistry of a $5 bottle of shampoo and a $50 bottle. Question why people are driven to purchase a new clothing every single season, as if their existing wardrobes are somehow inadequate.

            My complaint was never about the use of clothes, cosmetics, etc. It was the illusion that buying all of these things can make you look like the people in the advertisements, and that will make you successful and happy.

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    My wife once asked me with a straight face if I had any “football cosplay shirts” and while it took me a minute to figure out what she meant, I couldn’t argue with her terminology.

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    Hey do you guys remember when I was super good at sports in the past? Wasn’t that great? I bet I could have been even better if coach had let me play in that key game. Then, everyone would have seen how good I was and I would have got to play more!

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    Why are furries looked down upon but people who dress in fursuits at sporting events viewed as figures of fun?

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        I jersey for sure. I’ll put my local shirt on wherever. I’ll wear my shirt for any walks or endorsements for candidates at the union hall.

        Yes, I’ll wear my politics, if that’s what you were saying.