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That’s the reason why most people drink pasteurized milk. Those who don’t will soon find out about the dangers of raw milk.
Yes, but they will not be the only ones affected. Mutations and transmissions are not so tidy.
Pasteurization is pretty effective at killing stuff. That’s literally what it’s meant to do.
Mutations and transmission require a vast array of infections to net appreciable results. I don’t think the rare raw milk drinkers will likely be a huge problem.
Sure, pasteurization works. But then there’s the forest…
A multi-state outbreak of HPAI A(H5N1) bird flu in dairy cows was first reportedon March 25, 2024. This is the first time that these bird flu viruses were found in cattle. CDC confirmed one human HPAI A(H5N1) infection that had exposure to dairy cattle in Texas that were presumed to be infected with the virus. While thought to be rare, this exposure to HPAI A(H5N1) bird flu virus is the first instance of likely mammal to human transmission.
Certainly not after drinking this stuff
Those who don’t will soon find out about the dangers of raw milk.
If those tradfluencers could read they’d be very upset.
Do they even sell raw milk in stores? I assume you need to get this straight from a farm? And I’m a bit shocked if 4.4 percent of the US is getting their milk from farms. That’s like what ~12million people?
Most people get them from farmers’ markets. There are supposedly health advantages to it, but I’d assume this would be the case from buying from a smaller responsible farm over a corporate factory farm anyhow—regardless of whether it’s pasteurized or not.
It’s prolly got some shit they’d call pro-biotic, which will help while their gut flora are eating their corpse.
They did at whole foods like 15 years ago when I worked there. They pulled it from the shelves I believe because of some new law. A handful of our customers got super mad about it.
They sure do! And it’s outrageously expensive.
Yea, they consider it “more healthy” and “more natural” than pasteurized milk. The same kind of people who heal with prayers or crystals and read horoscopes.
That’s crazy. I don’t usually drink milk so I never noticed. But every now and then I will make White Russians. Now I’ll need to keep an eye out. (Or will kahlua and vodka kill this stuff?)
Any milk you’re getting at a regular store should be pasteurized.
They sell raw milk products at one of the grocery stores near me, but the people interested in raw milk products are very enthusiastic about it and willing to pay a premium to get sick, so the producers don’t hide the lack of pasteurization. It is all over the labels and more expensive than the pasteurized products.
It’s in pasteurized milk as well.
And is harmless.
Source that it’s harmless?
I expect better from you, lazynooblet
From the linked article:
The Food and Drug Administration, meanwhile, has detected genetic traces of H5N1 in roughly 20 percent of commercial milk samples. While commercial milk is still considered safe—pasteurization is expected to destroy the virus and early testing by the FDA and other federal scientists confirms that expectation—the finding suggests yet wider spread of the virus among the country’s milk-producing cows.
TLDR: Pasteurization kills the virus. Which is the point of pasteurization.
Pasteurization renders the virus non infectious. Do a search if you are interested.
Source? Have you slept in biology in school? Or don’t they teach things like that where you live?
According to the FDA it’s most likely safe but can’t be confirmed until actual tests are done.
Do they not teach proper research where you live?
“Because H5N1 has only recently been found in cattle, no studies have directly tested milk pasteurization’s ability to kill the virus, the FDA said in a statement.”
While H5N1 is new and there are no specific tests, pastereuzed milk being tested for all kinds of pathogens has quite a history. There is no reason to assume that H5N1 behaves fundamentally different from any other virus shred by the methods employed.
Yes, but the idea of pasteurisation is to get the amount of surviving microorganisms down to less than one in a million or better (depending on local definitions). The human body can then easily take care of the few remaining viruses.
Any kind of pasteurisation is not about eliminating 100% of MOs. It is always a compromise, but also always on the side of “better safe than sorry”.
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Mammal-to-mammal transmission raises new concerns about the virus’s ability to spread.
On March 16, cows on a Texas dairy farm began showing symptoms of a mysterious illness now known to be H5N1 bird flu. Their symptoms were nondescript, but their milk production dramatically dropped and turned thick and creamy yellow. The next day, cats on the farm that had consumed some of the raw milk from the sick cows also became ill. While the cows would go on to largely recover, the cats weren’t so lucky. They developed depressed mental states, stiff body movements, loss of coordination, circling, copious discharge from their eyes and noses, and blindness. By March 20, over half of the farm’s 24 or so cats died from the flu. …
The early outbreak data from the Texas farm suggests the virus is getting better and better at jumping to mammals, and data from elsewhere shows the virus is spreading widely in its newest host. On March 25, the US Department of Agriculture confirmed the presence of H5N1 in a dairy herd in Texas, marking the first time H5N1 had ever been known to cross over to cows. Since then, the USDA has tallied infections in at least 34 herds in nine states: Texas, Kansas, Michigan, New Mexico, Idaho, Ohio, South Dakota, North Carolina, and Colorado.
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God dammit, we’ve got cowvid infecting cats now
Texas Moo Flu.
Cowrona Virus
Don’t drink raw cow milk unless you’re a cow baby.
I think the story goes beyond not drinking raw cow milk and pasteurization at this point. Behind the scenes there is def ‘concern’. The first time cattle were known to ever be infected was March of this year.
Two possible bird flu vaccines could be available within weeks, if needed The H5N1 virus has infected at least 36 herds across nine states, raising the risk of potential human spread, federal health officials said Wednesday. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/two-possible-bird-flu-vaccines-available-weeks-needed-rcna149961
“The risk here of something going from one or two sporadic cases to becoming something of international concern, it’s not insignificant,” CDC Principal Deputy Director Nirav Shah said at a Council on Foreign Relations event on Wednesday. “We’ve all seen how a virus can spread around the globe before public health has even had a chance to get its shoes on. That’s a risk and one that we have to be mindful of.” https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/bird-flu-outbreak-cows-biden-00155452
I always thought raw milk was only really useful for making cheese.
I can’t see any reason to drink it.
It’s not worth the risk but there is certainly some loss of nutritional value when being pasteurized.
Stay away from the farms. Stay away from the city. Got it.
So I’m guessing the sea too
Anything that eats birds (or eats things that eat birds). Although with non-carnivorous mass infection in cows I think we’re well and truly fucked.
So like… everything?
Pretty much yeah
Could always stop contributing to this and just eat/drink plants.
You mean cats? Are they not obligate carnivores?
Milk is not good for cats to begin with.
Other than cat milk, possibly? I’ve honestly no idea.
But " just eat/drink plants " will kill a cat right?
Pretty sure you know they mean us, the cats won’t drink this milk naturally without the dairy farms for human consumption
I was genuinely asking because it wasn’t (and still isn’t) clear that that’s what they meant.
The dairy farm thing makes sense.
No, I mean people. The reason the farm exists.
Ah. OK. Thanks for clarifying
No way! I’ve lived this way and I’ll destroy my world this way. You must be some kind of crazy /s
Hahahaha! Been a triathlete for 6 years and a distance runner for 20. Not hurting for protein or calcium at all after dropping cow dairy and most meat (I occasionally have fish 1-3 times a week). Went off eggs a few years, too, and was fine. There’s so many alternatives these days—even for people who don’t have time to prepare/cook.
Obligatory reminder to get your flu shots!
I did and got the flu twice anyway :(
I’m still going to get this one too once it’s available.
While that experience likely sucked, imagine how much worse it would have been if your body didn’t have a head-start on making antibodies.
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Lol.
Regulatory bodies across the world have set standards for the maximum allowable pus content in milk. For example, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) allows a certain level of pus in milk.
It is very lol.
Also levels for fecal matter in most things that come from agriculture.
Milk is weird, I don’t disagree, but governmental regulations on levels of “safe contamination” isn’t a milk only thing.
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In case you are being serious, and didn’t read the article. Cats were not made to drink infected milk. They were found infected with H5N1 on a farm after drinking raw milk from cows.
Why oh why can’t you people ever be bothered to read the article you’re commenting on?
These were farm cats living with the cows to catch mice that eat cow food.
Most cats don’t digest cow milk well, but it’s common for cats on dairy farms to consume some milk, so maybe they self-select for lactose tolerance.
Anyway, they got sick and the farmer’s vets tried to help them. It wasn’t an experiment.
That’s not what happened? Also why is a cat pure but not a cow? Hell, if we applied human morals to other animals, cows are probably much better on average.
