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    Well I don’t think it does, so that’s an easy decision for them. They want to be just friendly enough that we keep buying their stuff and educating their youth.

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      Yeah, we buy all our stuff from them, no way we’d actually impose meaningful sanctions.

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    China knows the Republicans are going to gut NATO,

    China doesn’t care,

    China is committed to breaking the West’s dominion, which is why it’s making Russia into its vassal-state, totally-dependent-on-China, but with accountability/responsibility not having any direct-line into China, in the 1st place…

    Once Trump’s finished destroying the US, then … then the real action will begin, militarily.

    Give that about 1 dozen, or less, years, to occur.

    ContinuousHammerfall’s when the NATO-allied countries have been gutted, bankrupted, torn-apart through “populist dictatorship”, etc, and suddenly the triple-alliance throws EVERYthing they’ve got against us, to break our capability…

    Between now & then should be 2 more stages:

    economic-collapse, which Trump uses to gain & secure dictatorship,

    & the butchering of NATO & the West, economically, which should last … roughly 7 or 8 years, or so.

    Once those’re done, then the WW3 tantrum/pogrom can begin.

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        they would, but have the entire rest of the world if the west proves too antagonistic to their interests, they are also maneuvering their economy to their own markets. its convenient but not smart to be relying too hard on their opponents in a cold war.

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          The West is significantly richer than most other countries. The countries outside the west that are also wealthy have deep trade connections with the West. These connections may be so that China may consider them effectively 'the West’s - Japan, South Korea, Australia, Singapore etc.

          China tries to expand it’s trading partners outside the West with its belt and trade initiative. But that’s expensive and controversial. As it often involves corruption and abuse carried out by Chinese businesses. It doesn’t appear as bad as 1800s colonisers, but in light of today’s sensibilities China often comes out badly.

          It’s still wise to build connections with growing economies. Often because the population is large and is set to become larger. However, China’s aggressive posture has destroyed relations with one of it nearest and largest growing economy India. India’s relations with the West isn’t great, it currently goes between Russia and the West. I think mainly to ensure advanced weapon supply in the event of escalations with China.

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            the west in its entirety is just 15% of the planets population, suffering from recession more and more, and about to erupt in war. china has pretty much a third of the worlds population, and getting richer by the week. i’m sorry but the writing is on the wall here.

            and as someone who lives in a place contemplated by the belt and road, no, we never really seen that much improvement in infrastructure all at once, despite what your propaganda may say.

            india has bad relations with china because they have a trump-equivalent as president now. they have been trying to deescalate for years now with india.

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      I guess the US should have just let Imperial Japan take China since apparently now all you need to do is want to grab territory real bad and that is enough justification.

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      Maybe China should aid Ukraine. And Palestine and Global South countries being invaded. They could free Tibet, and not attack Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam etc while they’re at it.

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          Then move production to somewhere else. Mexico and Central America would be my first choice, hell its probably cheaper too since ya save on transport expenses.

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              And how much of that is actual price versus, subsidized price? China has a geopolitical interest in maintaining the status qou, but based of the gradual shift towards places like Vietnam I suspect the only reason its still cheaper in China is subsidies. And well I dont factor that into my math, mostly cause its a soft factor that can be eliminated.

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                  Industrial subsidies, they are pretty standard but as I understand it China is rather generous with them. But when China runs into problems I dont think they are solvent enough to keep them up.