• stoy@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    8 months ago

    They still need to follow the laws and migrate in the proper way

    • brainrein@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      8 months ago

      You mean like the European followed the rules of the local peoples when they went to conquer the world, right?

      Or you mean, if you have the power and weaponry you can do whatever you want to other peoples and noone can judge you.

      Wise words, you must be a wise guy.

      • stoy@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        Wow, you wasted a lot of time making a comment that just says “Europe bad”.

        Yes, Europe did a lot of horrific shit in the past, but remember that two wrongs doesn’t make a right.

        • Arelin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          8 months ago

          in the past

          Currently funding and supporting a genocide through the colony in Palestine to keep it subjugated.

          I’m guessing you’ll be saying fascist shit like this in the future too when these victims eventually have to immigrate to the regions not destroyed by imperialism — that is, Europe — cuz of this?

          two wrongs

          What “wrong”? Migrating to stay alive?

          • stoy@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            The Palestine situation is absolutely horrific, and Europe needs to pull all funding from Israel to stop the genocide.

            That being said, I have no idea what you mean when talking about a colony in Palestine, Israel is it’s own country.

            Migrating to stay alive?

            The woman in the article was from Morocco, if she fled foe her life the first avaliable country not directly threatning her should be where she requests asylum, else she is an economic migrant, and should go through the normal process.

            Claiming this to be fascist just waters down the word.

            • brainrein@feddit.de
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              So why should this woman from Morocco not come here? What’s the reason behind that ruling you support so passionately. You claim it’s not racist/fascist. So give us the reason.

                • brainrein@feddit.de
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  8 months ago

                  That’s in no way a reason why the woman should not be allowed to enter the EU.

                  It’s just one of those stupid things rightwingers tell people who are against shooting refugees at the border or letting migrants drown in the Mediterranean.

                  So again, why should this woman be rejected at the border of EU?

                  • stoy@lemmy.zip
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    8 months ago

                    I have no idea, I didn’t see that she had tried the official route.

                    If she had gone the official route and was rejected, then insert official reason here.

                    The EU doesn’t have the resources to help everyone.

                    Sweden has tried open imgration crap and look at the shit we are in now.

        • brainrein@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          It’s not only “Europe bad”. It’s more like the Europeans all over world (call them white if you want) feeling entitled to behave like shit against the rest of the world. Committing genocide in every country they like to settle themselves.

          And that’s not the past, that’s how we rule the world until today. And every day we prove to the world that our accomplishments like democracy or human rights are not for Non-Europeans.

          You’re right, Europe did horrific things.

          But migration for the pursuit of happiness (like a job and education for your children) isn’t a horrific thing. At all! It’s just normal human behavior since the beginning of time.

          In the contrary, comparing it with committing genocide after genocide, like you do, is a horrific thing.

          Freedom of movement is a human right! Everywhere. For everyone. In every direction!

      • stoy@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        Granted, the foundation to the EU was made before I was born, but I never knew that the EU has invaded and colonized other nations.

        • Arelin@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          8 months ago

          Congratulations on learning that present systems exist in the context and foundations of what came before.

          And the EU has indeed invaded Libya in the recent past though NATO.

          • stoy@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            8 months ago

            That operation was requested by the UN, NATO was asked to perform it, I don’t remember the EU taking part, though some member nations did.