Yeah my faith in our justice system has gotten to the point that I can only see one of two potential outcomes realistically happening with Trump’s crimes:
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No justice. We’ll dance to this song till the day he succumbs to his decades-long hamburder induced suicide.
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Vigilante justice. Collectively we don’t appear to have the spine for this kind of intervention, but even if we’re talking about the one-in-a-million lone wolf type of incident, we have over 300 one-in-a-millions in the US population to choose from, so I’m honestly kinda surprised we don’t see this kind of shit more often. (to be clear, this is an assessment, not a recommendation)
What do you mean by “gotten”? US has forever favored the rich white people.
like geez, take a look into your history? Segregation was fine till 60-70s. Killing people in mass abroad is okay and war crimes praised and criminals elected presidents. Funding genocide? bipartisan thumbs up.
Fuck your “justice system”
Most of us don’t see that shit growing up. We’re indoctrinated through our entire childhood, then slow-crash as we see example after example of a “broken” system… then finally accept that it’s not broken, it’s working as intended: it’s evil.
Others of us become Republicans and keep America delusional again! 💨
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…my mixed race kid was a suicide risk…
Ummm what? Can you elaborate on this further I don’t think I’ve heard this one before.
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That’s a horrible story. I had an aquaintance tell me when I was early 20s that when I had kids they wouldn’t be as valuable as our friends kids. Why? Because our friends kids are white.
And, at least in the US, that piece of shit wasn’t wrong, but I didn’t need to hear that.
Someone correctly indicating that mixed race children have lower standards of living in racist countries such as the United States is not someone who should be shunned
The less “white” someone is, the more likely it is for them to experience negative social, economic, and medical outcomes; this is because the United States is a racist country that intentionally disregards people of color.
I’m not sure why it’s improper for a friend to acknowledge that unfortunate truth. It’s reality, and clearly you agree with its conclusions on some level if you left the country yourself
Oh look, another tantalising opportunity to relive my worst memories. Thanks buddy.
You’re being a crybully about telling a story that doesn’t make sense
You seemed to have missed
bad for the “white” race
which implies that the mixed race kid is dragging down whites
If you are an idiot or a cunt now is the time to assure us it isn’t both.
If you are an idiot or a cunt now is the time to assure us it isn’t both.
Is this allowed under the rules of moderation?
Regardless, obviously talking about a white race is a concerning thing to do. But the rest of the conversation did not appear racist at all.
In racist countries such as the United States, a mixed race child will have worse outcomes than a “White” child. Which seems to be what this former friend was saying. Idk why that’s so wrong - it’s literally a progressive talking point since 2014, and, really, since the 1960s and the Civil Rights Movement
Alright it is both.
The comments were not in the interest of helping the child. The comments were in the interest of criticising the parent, for having a family with a person they love.
You are arguing that a person’s lived experiences are akchually different from what his perception was. There was no constructive or uplifting discussion following the factoid being shared. If the “friend” was telling him that some principal went to a cross burning, or some boyscout group leader has SS tattoos, that would have been useful and actionable for the parents. But he didn’t. The advice was, you shouldn’t have done that. Some cunt advice from a supposed “friend”.
If you still don’t see the problem, you are a dumb cunt, and sympathizer for racists. Go choke on something rusty you dumb cunt.
The gap in support for violence between the right and the left is smaller, but when it comes to actual acts of violence it is indeed mainly a right-wing problem.
Who the hell wants violence?
Wanting violence and preparing for its inevitability are two very different things.
US justice depends on what is in your bank account.
Or in Trump’s case, what he pretended was in his bank account, and how fast he can commit more crimes to actually find that money
I’ve been saying from the start that the prosecution is dragging their feet, hoping he either dies or becomes president, so they don’t have to be the ones who established precedent of their social class facing justice.
I think you just got put on a list
Almost! You can imagine how frustrated my FBI agent must have been when he got to that disclaimer at the end of the post!
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Super easy barely an inconvenience
Trump: I’ll need you to get aaa-all the way off of my back about this.
Judge: Oh, okay, lemme get off of that freakin’ dorsal region.A rigged justice system is TIGHT!
Good Christ we’ve been dealing with this for 7 years
Seven? The election cycle was in full swing in ‘15 and that guy has been screaming and flailing about Obama and anyone standing a centimeter to the left of Nixon for years before that
I’ve lost track of time/sanity
Fair, we all have
We’ll see the year of the Linux desktop before seeing justice for him.
Good thing Wayland is finally displacing X11, open source Nvidia drivers are actually getting good, the Cosmic desktop is coming, and usershare is increasing then.
Still taking far to long though
Oh good I hear that’s this year!!!
“Actually, it’s going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience!”
“Oh really?!”
“Yeah, so he has the backing of the entire Republican Party, so that basically gives him a pass to do pretty much whatever he wants, forever.”
It’s almost like the deep state is on his side
So even that was a projection?
Next it turns out he is really a lizard and has space lasers.
Or they are over selling how much trouble he is in. Or some combination thereof.
October 1, 2016.
Yeap.
Actually it was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Oh really?!
He still has to pay it. He’s been offered a bond which is typical and a small percentage of the total owed paid immediately to prevent further punitive action.
There’s literally an industry for it (bail bonds) though arguably there shouldn’t be.
Bail bonds are an entirely different thing from appeal bonds.
Same basic system, pay small for now lose appeal pay all.
And I’m case you didn’t know there’s an industry around “court bonds” as well.
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The source is here hasn’t paid yet. Normally i would dismiss that as a piss poor argument but until i see a headline saying he paid anything, I’m sticking to that. His legacy is literally not paying. Bills, consequences, fines ,Congressionally approved funds… you name it.
Yeah I thought it was about the bond being cut not the actual penalty, or did is miss(understand) something?
Do they also cut the bond on normal people because they don’t want to pay?
If it is a poor then New York will hold them without trial for three years on suspicion of stealing a backpack.
The NYPD is awful, New York spent millions of dollars funding police to stop turn stile jumpers on the NYC metro…which was costing the metro a mere fraction of what the NYPD spent to try to stop it.
This is what success looks like in a neoliberal hellscape where people pretend to be progressive while letting conservatives move the goalposts wherever the hell they want.
Yes, if you argue it successfully.
The people mad about this are almost certainly ignorant of the legal system.
This allows him to keep it dragging it out in the courts for years without having to pay the full penalty.
And he only really needs 6 months for the Russian and Saudi money to buy out his shares of Truth Social stock.
Only eight months left for him to win the election and he pardons himself from everything
Or it makes it so someone doesn’t have to pay a full penalty before due process for something that is basically guaranteed to loose on appeal in the long run. Apparently civil rights matter until it’s one of your enemies.
He had his due process and his day in Court. He was found guilty. Multiple times.
Everyone has to pay the penalty ahead of a appeal.
He’ll get that money back if he wins his appeal, which it’s extremely unlikely that he will, but in the meantime the courts must begin collecting it so that the people of New York can be reimbursed for Trumps decades of fraud as soon as the case is closed.
Trepan me
Can’t catch an oiled pig
I mean, did you ever really expect that he would pay it? If so, stop hitting yourself. He’s never going to face any real consequences. Ever.
i dunno, it’s just that when he successfully got arrested it gave me hope
I’m glad someone still has hope. Keep that fire burning.
still true somehow.
He hasn’t committed a crime. If he has why are there multiple real estate developers in NY willing to admit in public “I do that same crime every day if that’s a crime.”
Which developers have said this in public?
Don’t know about NY or multiple or if he even is a “real estate developer”, but Jon Stewart made fun of a guy called Kevin O’Leary for saying so on CNN recently: https://youtu.be/EDMinX6t1Zk?t=577
Turns out overvaluing properties for loans and then undervaluing them come tax time is a crime. Who else admitted to doing that?
It is a crime. Its fraud. Just because you and all your friends are jumping off a bridge doesn’t make it not stupid. Just like how if you and everyone you know does the same fraud. Its still fraud and all of you should face the consequences. Its white collar crime. Just because its “Victim less” does not make it non serious. If your willing to throw the book at petty thieft then you should be doing the same to anyone found emptying coffers under false guise.
Everyone commits a crime, then Pikachu face when gets convicted
Finding a group of people willing to do/does the same action doesn’t make it “not a crime.”
“Who amongst us hasn’t accidentally killed a hooker and rolled her up in our hotel carpet and then placed it in our trunk and later that night thrown the body in the river? If that’s a crime we’re all guilty!”
He was fond guilty and convicted… What do you mean he hasn’t committed a crime.
I swear his mindset has infected people so bad that they not only just belive what he says, they ignore basic facts and reality.