Fucking Chemtrails. I have MS and one of the times I was in a physical rehabilitation clinic, relearning how to walk, I had a nurse who believed in chemtrails. She asked if I realized that my MS was caused by chemtrails. I was taken aback. I was actively playing civ with a friend who heard my side of the conversation. After she said that, I had a short conversation with her about how chemtrails aren’t real. She said “Well I guess all those congressional hearings I watched were fake.” To which I said that we are never going to agree on this and it’s better to just stop talking so we don’t have an argument. She basically agreed and thankfully she was gone by the time I needed my MS meds that evening. Chemtrails are BS and yet so many people believe they’re real, even in professions that should understand they’re not real, that it is genuinely depressing.
M.D. here and I feel like I should defend myself but all I can think of was this highly trained doc who fought the hospital administration about having to wear masks, in the hospital, during peak Covid. I mean he was actually one of many but what made him stand out was that his wife was in our ICU. With Covid. Yes he continued to fight masking even as his own wife was near death in the ICU.
You are so absolutely correct about this. This gentleman I refer to is actually a very smart guy in many ways. But say it with me folks: You are not immune to propaganda.
This gentleman was drinking the Fox News tea big time and that’s where the anti-mask, anti-vaccine stuff was coming from. His training and years of knowledge just eventually got short circuited from the constant propaganda.
Weird having worked with them closely for almost twenty years in a hospital setting.
I can say for many I met. They’re absolutely no better than the average person is “put together”. The only thing they tend to be superior at is memorization and recall.
honestly dude the older I get the more I learn a lot of behavior that seems hurtful is just coming from someone who DOES NOT pause to consider what its doing to someone else. its not that they dont care, its just it never dawns on them that its hurting others
This is pretty typical in our field I’ve found, because that’s what it takes to move up in this field.
Non-CS just believe the “oh you work with computers? So you must know how to hack Facebook” logic, so they have to either say they don’t know how and look stupid, or just rattle off some absolute bonkers shit that uses acronyms and such above the non-CSs head.
This eventually bleeds into their reality and becomes a character trait.
It’s more a human/culture problem than a CS problem but I get what you mean :)
The doofy thing is neurotoxins in aviation engine fumes are 100% a real thing, but it’s not in the white lines you see behind jets, it’s from small planes burning leaded AVGAS. There’s a mandate to find a replacement for 100LL by 2030, but we’re still burning leaded gasoline in lots of GA planes.
that’s disturbing, I’m very sorry you had to deal with that, having someone you were supposed to trust with your health, who suddenly pulled back the curtain and revealed themselves as an utter moron.
First off that article says nothing about MS increased rates anywhere. But also, it talks about something that happened from July 9, 1953 to Aug 1, 1953. It’s one instance of testing a chemical for the cold war that was for trying to determine how Nuclear Fallout would spread in the area. Also, worst of all, you said there was an increased rate of MS in Saskatchewan but then posted an article that talks about something that happened in Winnipeg, which last I checked, was in Manitoba not Saskatchewan.
Edit: It does list an event that happened in Alberta but those were just claiming they could see some “distanctly visible emissions” but no study has shown any evidence for that being an actual chemical being ejected from the planes. There is also a supposed instance of it in St. Lois where they use just two people as evidence for it. It also talks about other tests the cia and other government agencies have done on the populace but none of those listed were a chemical dispersal except the original.
Maybe cause that’s not exactly why I posted the article. There’s a whole lot more to dig into, from reputable sources, I was just pointing you in the general direction with an article from a national paper. And not only 1953. They’ve been trying to figure out that geographic MS thing for years. You have enough info now to look into it yourself. (Medicine Hat is also mentioned too, it’s like you skimmed that article) It’s hilarious y’all are always like “They’d never do that, blah blah blah” “Here’s a documented and verified instance of them doing it at least twice, in the fifties and 60’s” “Welll… so what?” You’re (not subtly) misrepresenting what was in that article in order to belittle it. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, i know,
Fucking Chemtrails. I have MS and one of the times I was in a physical rehabilitation clinic, relearning how to walk, I had a nurse who believed in chemtrails. She asked if I realized that my MS was caused by chemtrails. I was taken aback. I was actively playing civ with a friend who heard my side of the conversation. After she said that, I had a short conversation with her about how chemtrails aren’t real. She said “Well I guess all those congressional hearings I watched were fake.” To which I said that we are never going to agree on this and it’s better to just stop talking so we don’t have an argument. She basically agreed and thankfully she was gone by the time I needed my MS meds that evening. Chemtrails are BS and yet so many people believe they’re real, even in professions that should understand they’re not real, that it is genuinely depressing.
A lot of nurses are dumb as shit. I’ve also met M.D.s who were seriously fucking stupid people.
M.D. here and I feel like I should defend myself but all I can think of was this highly trained doc who fought the hospital administration about having to wear masks, in the hospital, during peak Covid. I mean he was actually one of many but what made him stand out was that his wife was in our ICU. With Covid. Yes he continued to fight masking even as his own wife was near death in the ICU.
So, yeah.
Well he can just fuck right off
…like, out of the hospital
…preferably out of his profession entirely, if possible
its just there are over 20 currently agreed upon “types” of intelligence, so people can be very sharp in some ways and utterly hopeless in others.
Most doctors are put together pretty well in my experience though
You are so absolutely correct about this. This gentleman I refer to is actually a very smart guy in many ways. But say it with me folks: You are not immune to propaganda.
This gentleman was drinking the Fox News tea big time and that’s where the anti-mask, anti-vaccine stuff was coming from. His training and years of knowledge just eventually got short circuited from the constant propaganda.
Weird having worked with them closely for almost twenty years in a hospital setting.
I can say for many I met. They’re absolutely no better than the average person is “put together”. The only thing they tend to be superior at is memorization and recall.
I hear stories like this and it’s hard for me to accept the fact that they’re stupid and not just truly evil
honestly dude the older I get the more I learn a lot of behavior that seems hurtful is just coming from someone who DOES NOT pause to consider what its doing to someone else. its not that they dont care, its just it never dawns on them that its hurting others
I had two CS professors who should NOT be asked about anything other than programing or math
If it was something other than those two topics then you will almost certainly be given a confident, yet incorrect, answer
Sys admin here for quite some time.
This is pretty typical in our field I’ve found, because that’s what it takes to move up in this field.
Non-CS just believe the “oh you work with computers? So you must know how to hack Facebook” logic, so they have to either say they don’t know how and look stupid, or just rattle off some absolute bonkers shit that uses acronyms and such above the non-CSs head.
This eventually bleeds into their reality and becomes a character trait.
It’s more a human/culture problem than a CS problem but I get what you mean :)
Covid taught us that a lot of nurses are straight up batshit. It was sad.
The doofy thing is neurotoxins in aviation engine fumes are 100% a real thing, but it’s not in the white lines you see behind jets, it’s from small planes burning leaded AVGAS. There’s a mandate to find a replacement for 100LL by 2030, but we’re still burning leaded gasoline in lots of GA planes.
Which is very characteristic of the Conspiracy minded, they occasionally have a kernel of truth and then turn it up to 11.
that’s disturbing, I’m very sorry you had to deal with that, having someone you were supposed to trust with your health, who suddenly pulled back the curtain and revealed themselves as an utter moron.
Perhaps she knows what she’s talking about. The rate of MS in Saskatchewan is ten times higher south of highway one than north of it, and american air force pilots have admitted to using that highway as a visual marker to spread chemicals in other instances in the area. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/u-s-secretly-tested-carcinogen-in-western-canada-during-the-cold-war-researcher-discovers
First off that article says nothing about MS increased rates anywhere. But also, it talks about something that happened from July 9, 1953 to Aug 1, 1953. It’s one instance of testing a chemical for the cold war that was for trying to determine how Nuclear Fallout would spread in the area. Also, worst of all, you said there was an increased rate of MS in Saskatchewan but then posted an article that talks about something that happened in Winnipeg, which last I checked, was in Manitoba not Saskatchewan.
Edit: It does list an event that happened in Alberta but those were just claiming they could see some “distanctly visible emissions” but no study has shown any evidence for that being an actual chemical being ejected from the planes. There is also a supposed instance of it in St. Lois where they use just two people as evidence for it. It also talks about other tests the cia and other government agencies have done on the populace but none of those listed were a chemical dispersal except the original.
Maybe cause that’s not exactly why I posted the article. There’s a whole lot more to dig into, from reputable sources, I was just pointing you in the general direction with an article from a national paper. And not only 1953. They’ve been trying to figure out that geographic MS thing for years. You have enough info now to look into it yourself. (Medicine Hat is also mentioned too, it’s like you skimmed that article) It’s hilarious y’all are always like “They’d never do that, blah blah blah” “Here’s a documented and verified instance of them doing it at least twice, in the fifties and 60’s” “Welll… so what?” You’re (not subtly) misrepresenting what was in that article in order to belittle it. Cognitive dissonance is a bitch, i know,
got curious, googled it, here’s something interesting:
https://news.usask.ca/articles/research/2018/u-of-s-study-hones-in-on-causes-of-ms-disability.php
seems genetic. which makes sense.
apparently that region just got unlucky with its gene pool, though, as the news release states: more research is necessary in order to be certain.
being caused by environmental chemicals hasn’t been definitively ruled out, but it’s not looking likely
(btw, bravo on an actually readable press release by a university!)