Cosmetic surgery relates to appearance. Transition related surgeries relate to dysphoria
Someone with damaged teeth would disagree with you because of appearance, health, social and mental impact of living with and having to hide damaged teeth.
Both my partner and myself both have damaged teeth. It’s nothing like that
Arguing trans healthcare should always come first because you prefer it in your situation is a shit argument.
I don’t need it. I was fortunate enough to be able to self fund my own surgeries. But doing so has had long lasting effects on my financial security.
Notably, I didn’t spend that money on teeth or any other cosmetic issues, because it’s not even remotely the same. Spending my future to make my teeth look better would be a poor choice.
Spending my future to deal with my dysphoria was what I had to do to ensure that I had a future.
how many brain cells do you have? 2? 3? she said her partner has fucked teeth. they consider FFS more important. does that mean they dont want their fucked teeth fixed? NO. jesus fuck, get out of here you cis garbage
No offence but comments like this are only harmful to our community, and I know saying this might not change your mind on anything, but I’d feel wrong if I didn’t ask.
Don’t try to speak for all of us, I know many of us have been treated horribly for years simply because who we are, and as fucked as that is it doesn’t make it ok to put your trauma above others, in a way that may be affected by your personal bias.
The queer community has always been about outsiders, arguably even more so than simply about sex or gender, and in that vein I couldnt go to bed comfortably if I could gaurentee ffs to some of our sisters while leaving millions in constant physical pain, just like I feel looking in the mirror every day.
This is class warfare, not bum fights in an alleyway - cause we all know the upper class has rock solid solidarity, and we don’t stand a chance until we do as well.
Where did they take it to an individual sense? You’re being a “pickme” and arguing for respectability politics. I vehemently disagree that trans people need to make ourselves and our rights palatable to non-queer folks.
Pickme to me means someone that always tries to steal the spotlight, an individual (though I’m not too up to date on my buzzwords admittedly).
I also agree trans people don’t need to cater to others, but also we don’t need to be dicks cause yeah that’s just gonna enforce peoples bias’ - leave that shit to reddit/twitter.
Yes, and as it applies to talking about respectability politics, it refers to someone who goes out of their way to make themselves palatable to non-queer people for the purposes of being “one of the good ones”.
And you’re still doing it with this “leave that shit” line. Like, I don’t go out of my way to be a dick to folks that are genuinely curious and want to learn more. But someone who waltzes into a space that’s for trans people and runs their mouth? No, I will not be polite to them. Telling me I should has the same energy as an old man telling a woman to “smile more”. So, please kindly f*ck off.
Cosmetic surgery relates to appearance. Transition related surgeries relate to dysphoria
Both my partner and myself both have damaged teeth. It’s nothing like that
I don’t need it. I was fortunate enough to be able to self fund my own surgeries. But doing so has had long lasting effects on my financial security.
Notably, I didn’t spend that money on teeth or any other cosmetic issues, because it’s not even remotely the same. Spending my future to make my teeth look better would be a poor choice.
Spending my future to deal with my dysphoria was what I had to do to ensure that I had a future.
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Yeah, the trans person, talking about first hand experiences navigating this exact topic is the one who doesn’t get it…
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Love getting shit gate kept by fucking assholes, eat my entire ass
Healthcare is only rationed out out the way that it is because profiteering middle men make money by denying care
That’s my partner. Her teeth are absolutely on the list, but transition care is above it.
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how many brain cells do you have? 2? 3? she said her partner has fucked teeth. they consider FFS more important. does that mean they dont want their fucked teeth fixed? NO. jesus fuck, get out of here you cis garbage
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No offence but comments like this are only harmful to our community, and I know saying this might not change your mind on anything, but I’d feel wrong if I didn’t ask.
Don’t try to speak for all of us, I know many of us have been treated horribly for years simply because who we are, and as fucked as that is it doesn’t make it ok to put your trauma above others, in a way that may be affected by your personal bias.
The queer community has always been about outsiders, arguably even more so than simply about sex or gender, and in that vein I couldnt go to bed comfortably if I could gaurentee ffs to some of our sisters while leaving millions in constant physical pain, just like I feel looking in the mirror every day.
This is class warfare, not bum fights in an alleyway - cause we all know the upper class has rock solid solidarity, and we don’t stand a chance until we do as well.
Transition surgery is healthcare, not cosmetic. That’s all I said.
This idea that trans healthcare trumps other healthcare needs is something the person I was talking to said, not something I said
I see, sorry to have read your intentions wrong and I agree with you.
Mostly I just wish Ontario would get its head out of its 1%'s ass and give us healthcare instead of this freenium bullshit
We got more mods on this comm now, all debatebros will be purged
Appreciated!
fuck off with this pickme shit
I appreciate how you took ‘our’ in an individual sense, it takes a certain level of mental warping to achieve
Where did they take it to an individual sense? You’re being a “pickme” and arguing for respectability politics. I vehemently disagree that trans people need to make ourselves and our rights palatable to non-queer folks.
Pickme to me means someone that always tries to steal the spotlight, an individual (though I’m not too up to date on my buzzwords admittedly).
I also agree trans people don’t need to cater to others, but also we don’t need to be dicks cause yeah that’s just gonna enforce peoples bias’ - leave that shit to reddit/twitter.
Yes, and as it applies to talking about respectability politics, it refers to someone who goes out of their way to make themselves palatable to non-queer people for the purposes of being “one of the good ones”.
And you’re still doing it with this “leave that shit” line. Like, I don’t go out of my way to be a dick to folks that are genuinely curious and want to learn more. But someone who waltzes into a space that’s for trans people and runs their mouth? No, I will not be polite to them. Telling me I should has the same energy as an old man telling a woman to “smile more”. So, please kindly f*ck off.
I’m absolutely going to be a dick to cis people invading our space. I do hope you get over this hangup though