I played eve online for 500 hours while actively playing in nullsec on highest earning content for my current skill points (which are IRL timegated for those who dont know) and never managed to pay the premium subscribtion with the in game currency I made. (I could afford at the very least like 7 days) Paid to play is for like less than a percent of players
sure, that’s a valid critique, and based on your objective experience.
however, compare your experience with other games that could be interpreted as “abusive pay for play systems”. You’re paying for the monthly game subscription similar to other MMOs, rather than a pay to win system based on microtransactions or other predatory practices.
From an outsiders perspective, what I’ve heard about Eve and their payment model, it seemed more fair and two way than most other games.
So you haven’t played eve right? It is way more predatory than just paying a subscription. A lot of people doing PVP are pouring money into their account to buy ships they don’t have time to farm for
The simple answer is to not do pvp then. Majority of Pvpers have been sublimenting their income since way before RMT was a thing in Eve. You can make enough money to do quite a bit of Pvp for just a few hours of farming or trading if you know what you are doing but some people will always prefer doing RMT whether it’s allowed or not. Has nothing to do with CCP.
This was before they added F2P, but ten minutes a day of checking my two hisec market alts (who didn’t have a lot of skills because it meant pausing my main’s training) was making me just enough to pay for my account and there was room to expand further. Granted, it did take me several months of trading to build up enough funds to support this operation, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect to do this on day 1.
I played eve online for 500 hours while actively playing in nullsec on highest earning content for my current skill points (which are IRL timegated for those who dont know) and never managed to pay the premium subscribtion with the in game currency I made. (I could afford at the very least like 7 days) Paid to play is for like less than a percent of players
sure, that’s a valid critique, and based on your objective experience.
however, compare your experience with other games that could be interpreted as “abusive pay for play systems”. You’re paying for the monthly game subscription similar to other MMOs, rather than a pay to win system based on microtransactions or other predatory practices.
From an outsiders perspective, what I’ve heard about Eve and their payment model, it seemed more fair and two way than most other games.
So you haven’t played eve right? It is way more predatory than just paying a subscription. A lot of people doing PVP are pouring money into their account to buy ships they don’t have time to farm for
And who are they paying to do that.
They are buying space money with real money, and the space money goes to other player who make and sell the ships.
Neither of you answered my question, who is getting paid.
Are you asking who gets paid in a transaction?
The person selling gets paid.
I’m not sure how you’re still not getting my question, yes if it needs to be reworded to “who is the seller?” there ya go.
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The simple answer is to not do pvp then. Majority of Pvpers have been sublimenting their income since way before RMT was a thing in Eve. You can make enough money to do quite a bit of Pvp for just a few hours of farming or trading if you know what you are doing but some people will always prefer doing RMT whether it’s allowed or not. Has nothing to do with CCP.
This was before they added F2P, but ten minutes a day of checking my two hisec market alts (who didn’t have a lot of skills because it meant pausing my main’s training) was making me just enough to pay for my account and there was room to expand further. Granted, it did take me several months of trading to build up enough funds to support this operation, but I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect to do this on day 1.