I’m not a trump supporter but I’m also not a sensationalism supporter. He made an analogy in his post, “he gave out a traffic ticket instead of a death sentence.” Now we accept that the sentence given by the judge was not a traffic ticket, but we insist that the death sentence part was meant literally? Now honestly, I hate Trump as much as anyone but honest, accurate, and irrefutable criticisms are going to get us farther than stretches of sensational word-twisting.
The problem here is there’s a sub-group of Trump supporters who will read this and think “yeah, someone should just take out Hunter Biden, that will send a real message”. And there’s a sub-group of that group that will possibly try to do it.
Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.
He was trying to get the metal detectors removed from the Jan 6 rally because “they’re not here to hurt me”. This indicates he knew people would try to come armed and that they intended to hurt someone, just not him.
Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.
There’s no “possibly”. He is proud of it, and he’s attempted to directly call for violence on multiple occasions since 1/6. Fortunately, it only actually worked the one time. But it did permanently force everybody to take his calls to violence seriously since he only needs one well-armed MAGA moron to do some serious damage, and his base has proven that there are plenty of people out there waiting for that call.
He speaks far too colloquially and off-the-cuff for a President for my liking.
This is actually one of the traits I wish more members of our government had. We don’t need or want big, fancy political doublespeak. Just tell us like it is like we’re regular people.
The problem isn’t that Trump speaks colloquially or off-the-cuff. The problem is that he’s …
A complete buffoon who can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole.
Give me someone who can speak like Trump but has the intelligence and desire to work for the people like AOC or Bernie Sanders and I wouldn’t be able to throw my money towards their election campaign fast enough.
I fail to see any example of Trump’s speech patterns that are ideal. AOC speaks far more intelligently, and without doublespeak, than Trump ever could.
His off-the-cuff method of talking to people is one of the main things that endears him to so many people. He talks like one would when they’re getting together with co-workers at the bar after work. Even his staunchest critics have never denied his mastery of being able to connect with rank-and-file people at a very deep level. This is what I’m referring to.
AOC speaks far more intelligently, and without doublespeak, than Trump ever could.
Right. Now imagine she had all of that and Trump’s ability to connect with people at the level he can so easily. Imagine if she had Trump’s ability and willingness to push his party as hard as he can to get what he wants, and calling out party members that get in his way. Imagine a President AOC trying to push for national healthcare and calling out people like Manchin who gum up the works and refuse to play ball the way Trump does.
I think you are making the mistake of believing what Trump supporters say. They claim they like his ‘off the cuff’ speaking style but what they really like is all the racism.
Plenty of politicians have a more natural and “common” way of speaking but also make coherent points. Trump is not unique in any way from that angle.
While I get what you’re saying, Trump benefits far too much from not literally saying things, but letting his supporters run wild with what he’s implying.
It’s no different from when he starts a rumor by saying “People have been telling me…” followed by some shit he just made up about an opponent. He gets to claim immunity from being the one that starts the rumor while at the same time putting it out there for his supporters to grab onto.
The question is, do you believe that he wants his supporters to think he literally wants the death penalty for Hunter Biden?
If the answer is yes, then he shouldn’t be defended in any way.
The problem here, I think is, is that Trump does stuff like this all the time. He says things that are absurd, or outlandish and people always say “he’s joking”, “don’t take everything he says literally”, but at what point do you take him literally?
You think for one second if he had won in 2020 he wouldnt be trying to run for reelection again? Or trying to declare himself president for life? He said multiple times his first term shouldnt count because they spied on his campaign or the impeachments. He said the US should try president for life as China had done during his term. Trump also praised Rodrigo Duterte who encouraged murdering drug users/pushers.
We can stick to facts all we want but the one thing we should do, is believe Trump when he says something.
Of course he deliberately mentioned the death sentence to put associations into the skulls of his radicalised extremist cultist base. Haven’t you been alive for the last 7 years?
I’m not a trump supporter but I’m also not a sensationalism supporter. He made an analogy in his post, “he gave out a traffic ticket instead of a death sentence.” Now we accept that the sentence given by the judge was not a traffic ticket, but we insist that the death sentence part was meant literally? Now honestly, I hate Trump as much as anyone but honest, accurate, and irrefutable criticisms are going to get us farther than stretches of sensational word-twisting.
The problem here is there’s a sub-group of Trump supporters who will read this and think “yeah, someone should just take out Hunter Biden, that will send a real message”. And there’s a sub-group of that group that will possibly try to do it.
Trump is well aware, and possibly proud of, the fact that statements from him can lead to real world violence.
He was trying to get the metal detectors removed from the Jan 6 rally because “they’re not here to hurt me”. This indicates he knew people would try to come armed and that they intended to hurt someone, just not him.
There’s no “possibly”. He is proud of it, and he’s attempted to directly call for violence on multiple occasions since 1/6. Fortunately, it only actually worked the one time. But it did permanently force everybody to take his calls to violence seriously since he only needs one well-armed MAGA moron to do some serious damage, and his base has proven that there are plenty of people out there waiting for that call.
He speaks far too colloquially and off-the-cuff for a President for my liking. A complete buffoon who can’t speak unless it’s in hyperbole.
This is actually one of the traits I wish more members of our government had. We don’t need or want big, fancy political doublespeak. Just tell us like it is like we’re regular people.
The problem isn’t that Trump speaks colloquially or off-the-cuff. The problem is that he’s …
Give me someone who can speak like Trump but has the intelligence and desire to work for the people like AOC or Bernie Sanders and I wouldn’t be able to throw my money towards their election campaign fast enough.
I fail to see any example of Trump’s speech patterns that are ideal. AOC speaks far more intelligently, and without doublespeak, than Trump ever could.
His off-the-cuff method of talking to people is one of the main things that endears him to so many people. He talks like one would when they’re getting together with co-workers at the bar after work. Even his staunchest critics have never denied his mastery of being able to connect with rank-and-file people at a very deep level. This is what I’m referring to.
Right. Now imagine she had all of that and Trump’s ability to connect with people at the level he can so easily. Imagine if she had Trump’s ability and willingness to push his party as hard as he can to get what he wants, and calling out party members that get in his way. Imagine a President AOC trying to push for national healthcare and calling out people like Manchin who gum up the works and refuse to play ball the way Trump does.
I think you are making the mistake of believing what Trump supporters say. They claim they like his ‘off the cuff’ speaking style but what they really like is all the racism.
Plenty of politicians have a more natural and “common” way of speaking but also make coherent points. Trump is not unique in any way from that angle.
While I get what you’re saying, Trump benefits far too much from not literally saying things, but letting his supporters run wild with what he’s implying.
It’s no different from when he starts a rumor by saying “People have been telling me…” followed by some shit he just made up about an opponent. He gets to claim immunity from being the one that starts the rumor while at the same time putting it out there for his supporters to grab onto.
The question is, do you believe that he wants his supporters to think he literally wants the death penalty for Hunter Biden?
If the answer is yes, then he shouldn’t be defended in any way.
Well said. Stuff like this makes us no better than what we oppose. Let’s just stick with facts and logic.
Stochastic Terrorism
The problem here, I think is, is that Trump does stuff like this all the time. He says things that are absurd, or outlandish and people always say “he’s joking”, “don’t take everything he says literally”, but at what point do you take him literally?
You think for one second if he had won in 2020 he wouldnt be trying to run for reelection again? Or trying to declare himself president for life? He said multiple times his first term shouldnt count because they spied on his campaign or the impeachments. He said the US should try president for life as China had done during his term. Trump also praised Rodrigo Duterte who encouraged murdering drug users/pushers.
We can stick to facts all we want but the one thing we should do, is believe Trump when he says something.
im well past giving this gaping void of humanity the benefit of the doubt.
Of course he deliberately mentioned the death sentence to put associations into the skulls of his radicalised extremist cultist base. Haven’t you been alive for the last 7 years?
Yeah I’m going to block this community if something like this comes up on my feed again.
Don’t let the door hit you where god split you. Bye Kevin.
You’re trying to apply logic to an illogical person. That’s where we went wrong in 2016.