When you compare Biden to Trump vs. the effects on the Palestinians, were Trump president again, he would not just help the Israelis exterminate the Palestinians, but encourage them to do so quickly- as he’s already told Bibi to “finish it”. So your dichotomy is more than a bit disingenuous .

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    Millennials and Zoomers turning out at population share at the primary would have made it a landslide for him. They couldn’t even do that much, nevermind the easy dominating overrepresented share they could take with all the boomers catching the MAGA brainrot.

    First off, Gen Z was born between 1995 and 2012, which means only a small % of them could even vote in 2016 (1995-1998) and 2020 (1995-2002). Even 2020 we’re talking less than like 30% of the generation was even old enough to vote. In 2016 it was like 12-15%? So I would take a step back for a second and think through this blanket statement of yours on that alone. 6 years out of 17 won’t be able to vote this coming election, so we’re talking (napkin math) like 70% of the generation is even eligible in 2024. I hope my point has been sufficiently made here.

    Second, why is it the responsibility of Gen Z and Millennials to save everyone else, or rather - why is it our fault when other people vote for Trump/someone else in the primaries? Why didn’t Gen X vote for him? Why are boomers off the hook? It’s not Gen Z and Millenials’ collective fault that other people voted for Trump. That’s absurd.

    This just gives me flashbacks to Republicans in 2016 essentially saying “well you forced me to vote for Trump when you all [insert social issue they are mad about]” as if they aren’t responsible for their own actions and it’s everyone else’s fault they voted for the bigoted conman.

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      I love how you just came right the fuck out and admitted you expect everyone else to do the revolution for you but tried to phrase it like never turning out is some kind of virtue.

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        I’m not sure I follow…? Are you responding to the right person?

        Gen Z could barely vote for Bernie in the primaries. Holding them accountable for “not turning out“ when it was literally impossible for the vast majority to is a pretty bold take.

        I am responsible for a vote and who I support. That doesn’t make it my fault when someone else votes for a different candidate.

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          Both Gen Z and Millenials underperformed share of the voting age population. Millions of both actively chose to just not show up the one time it mattered.

          Your right that it ain’t your fault when other people vote for someone else, but the Bernie crusaders have NEVER owned up to that being 99% of what happened both times around, other people voted for someone else, and that number of other people was well surmountable by turning out at voting age share at a minimum, let alone how much more young voters could take in over representation if they could be fucking bothered to do anything but get mad at other people for not voting the way the non voters wanted them to.

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            I don’t really see the sense in blaming 18-25 year olds for not bailing us out of our mess.